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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-16-2003, 07:19 PM Thread Starter
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ive decided to do %100 of one type of substrate, searched the fourms and got alot of information. Its between Flourite, and Eco complete. Anyone have close up pics or each? all the pictures that i found are of the tank far away. aslo are there any benifits beween them that will make one better in the long run? thanks!
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I think black looks a lot better than clay color, so on looks eco-complete wins. I think its to early to tell nutrient wise which is better. I get more algae on the gravel with eco complete, I don't know if this is a good sign or bad. I pull up hair algae and the gravel size of eco complete is big enough that they all stick together in clumps. I had slightly better growth with flourite it seems, but my eco is still not as balanced as the flourite was so I can't compare accurately. If I balance things with eco it will be my favorite, but it is still to early to give a good answer. The gravel size also plays a big part. Eco is round and layers itself. It makes it easier to plant things since the larger gravel helps to keep things in place. But more crud builds up in the top layer and I don't know if that makes it a problem with algae.
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does the onyx lack anything that is important? now i really cant decide onxy, eco, flourite :?
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Be aware that the Onyx will buffer your water. It's something to think about. No substrate is a complete answer unless you are using dirt. With any of the high tech substrates you are still going to have to fertilize the plants. And no matter which one you go with be sure to put a fine layer of peat moss at the very bottom.
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what do you mean by buffer? isnt that good? or does it mean something else.
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It will raise the kH and gH and possibly the pH depending on where your water starts out. Again this can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on where your initial water chemistry starts.
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I had great results with eco. My plants grew like crazy but there is a lot to plant growth other than the substrate. I found eco tough to plant but once the roots take hold was very tough to remove plants.

I just replaced all my eco with white sand simply because it's a discus tank. If I do another planted tank I would use it again.

Here's a fairly close shot of the eco
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Here's a closeup of my tank with regular fluorite.
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Flourite black sand is my personal favorite. Looks great and easier to keep plants rooted vs flourite black or flourite dark. I have no experience with eco so i can't say anything there.
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substrate choice?

Organic potting soil. Add some red clay for iron. Cover with gravel of choice-not too large, tho!! No additional fertilizers needed for a long time. Plant heavily. Stock moderately. Most of the plants will get enough nutrition from the soil and from fish food. Again, I refer to Diane Walstad's book "Ecology of the Planted Aquarium."
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