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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 03-06-2013, 07:51 PM Thread Starter
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What does everybody think of a Black Diamond, Eco Complete, and Laterite mix. All opinions count and matter. Thanks.
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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 03-06-2013, 08:20 PM
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Stick some dirt up in there and you've got a good mix. You could one stop shop at a tractor supply store if you opt for safetsorb.
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Order the $10 bag of Safe T Sorb.
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I bought a bag of dirt at Wally World. The majority of it is floating. Looks like alot of wood in it. Would that be safe for shrimp? How do I get the dang blasted crap to sink or should I use something else?
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You need to cap it with something heavy, like Black Diamond from Tractor Supply. If you didn't compost it a bit, you may get bubbles as the wood breaks down too, so you may have to poke the substrate now and then to get them to come up without making a mess.
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Order the $10 bag of Safe T Sorb.
^this, if you're on that poverty time. safe t sorb is great. only like $8-$12 for a 40-50lb bag. one bag is a lot. and supposely this stuff is better then eco or flourite. only bad thing about it is that its a lil light. and it looks pretty natural in term of colors
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I already have the eco though. So after the potting soil what would come next. The sand or eco?
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^this, if you're on that poverty time. safe t sorb is great. only like $8-$12 for a 40-50lb bag. one bag is a lot. and supposely this stuff is better then eco or flourite. only bad thing about it is that its a lil light. and it looks pretty natural in term of colors
Is this safe t sorb good for plants? Ive never heard of it. Does it have any nutrients in it?
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I already have the eco though. So after the potting soil what would come next. The sand or eco?
This might be too late but you should find top soil instead of potting soil. Top soil is usually mostly just dirt and no wood or other organic material. If you're sticking with the potting soil, remove the floating particles and cap it with your eco complete. Keep a close watch on your water parameters for at least 3 months.

I believe Eco complete, Florite, and SafeT sorb don't have any nutrients. But they have a high capacity to store nutrients if you add root tabs or other fertilizers.
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Okay, so back to the store tomorrow for top soil. I think I will pitch the potting soil. Thanks for all your help.
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Dirt and black diamond sand is a great combo! My friend did a 75 with those two for less than 30 bucks.
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pastert, Safe-T-Sorb is one of the Oil Dry types of materials. It has a nice color for an aquarium.
In itself it does not have any fertilizer, but it has a very high cationic exchange capacity. This means that it will grab the fertilizers you add (water column or substrate dosing) and hold them in a way that plants can get them.

There are several posts about this material, some with lots of pictures.

Using Oil-Dri for cheap substrate?
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Back here in India we DIY substrate with - base layer as vermicompost midlayer - laterite+soilrite(40% - 60% ratio) top layer - golden sand, this by far is the cheapest substrate system. Don't know about soilrite or vermicompost availability at you place but I can vouch for it..even before the commercial substrates came (to India) i was using this and never have been disappointed.

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Is this safe t sorb good for plants? Ive never heard of it. Does it have any nutrients in it?

Good for plants. No nutrients out of the bag. Grabs them from the water like Diana said. Its like Flourite, except its not black and costs much less.
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