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Eco-complete - worth adding soil?

I'm thinking of swapping my white rocks to either fluval stratum or eco-complete. From what i have read neither one has many nutrients Is it worth putting a base layer of miracle grow organic soil underneath?
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yes and yes.... i love eco, but unless your doing EI dosing, go with the mts

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Yes - either cap your dirt with Eco complete or flourite (my favorite). The high CEC will help keep the nutrients near the roots.
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Should I pre soak the mgopm for a day or so first? I going to swap the substrate soon!! May go shopping today
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What's mts? I'm doing low tech with a half dose of ferts every in a while
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Eco-complete - worth adding soil?

MTS is mineralized topsoil substrate!!!

How-To: Mineralized Soil Substrate (MTS), by Aaron Talbot

This thread may be helpful
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Yes - either cap your dirt with Eco complete or flourite (my favorite).
+1 for flourite...my favorite as well.

I recently tried Eco complete and I absolutely can't stand it! Pumped up my pH way too high plus the size of the substrate is way to big & course for my liking.

Pearling.....it's way overrated.
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Should I pre soak the mgopm for a day or so first? I going to swap the substrate soon!! May go shopping today
Depends on if you're swapping the soil into a tank with fish. If you are, then soak it for a week as it releases ammonia for quite some time. If not then make sure to let it stand in the tank for a week and make sure the tank is cycled before adding fish.
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There is fish/shrimp in the tank.. I will temporarily remove them when i do the swap.

I guess I will give the MGOPM a few days in a bucket to save the sea creatures.

I ended up getting eco-complete

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HOw much ammonia will it actually leach out? Will the plants handle it or is it best to soak it for a few days?
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HOw much ammonia will it actually leach out? Will the plants handle it or is it best to soak it for a few days?
They'll handle it - just plant the heck out of the tank so it absorbs all of the other nutrients that are released initially otherwise you'll get some algae.
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Its decently planted. maybe ill grab a few more stems just to be safe




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Now that was a mess! hopefully the muddy lake that is my aquarium clears up by tomorrow. I think i went a little overboard on the substrate thickness.. but to late now!
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Is there any tricks to clearing the murky swamp water or is it just a mixture of the waiting game and an excessive number of water changes?
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Is there any tricks to clearing the murky swamp water or is it just a mixture of the waiting game and an excessive number of water changes?
read more before you leap LOL never a horror story to date in house using soil base set ups.
how thick a soil layer did you use, how thick a capping layer?

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