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If you want. You have lots of options, including the sand you started off thinking about.

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ok, and about additives, what things would i want to have (e.g. iron, potassium, ect.) please help!

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Flourite is a good choice, as it will readily absorb nutrients for later use but won't release anything into the water column causing a pH shift or an ammonia spike. You can use it on its own or as a cap for a shallow layer or MTS or that particular Miracle Gro (don't buy a different type). Using root tabs is always a good idea. Any other dosing should be done via the water column once you have plants in there. In a 30g you'll probably want 2 bags of Flourite ($40-ish plus shipping for new), which comes in a few colors and a couple granule sizes. Use http://www.mizuworld.com/pages/calculator to doublecheck the amount. You'll want 3-4 inches total substrate.
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Update!!

i just went to AA (aquarium adventure) and got myself 2 dwarf lilys
those aren't my tanks, i am too lazy to take pics of my real tank but those pics will give you a general idea
i am planning on taking my cichlids out because they might kill my plants.
also i am asking if i need any additives for these plants. just so they will grow better
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ok thank u!! and kevmo911, what is your profile pic? jw

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Your lilies would probably appreciate some root tab ferts.

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Flourite is good stuff. So is Aquasoil. But if you're looking for cheap and basic when starting out, you really can't beat a basic Walstad set-up.
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Anything that roots itself in the substrate will appreciate root tabs, and I've never heard of anybody "overdosing" with root tabs. One every 3 inches or so, in a grid through the tank, will do just fine. Making your own with Osmocote Plus and either freezing some into tiny ice cubes and inserting them, or ordering some empty capsules online (<$5 shipped) to stick in there, is the cheapest bet, though I've had good success with RootMedic tabs.

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oh so Osmocote plus is a liquid?
and thanks for clearing that up, every time i saw u i thought it was like a hobo oh well.
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oh and thanks Betta maniac, 1-1.5 inches of soil stuff and then 1-1.5 inches of gravel. i will probably replace that gravel with sand but oh well. THANKS

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No, Osmocote is powder in little 2mm pellets. Which you want *in* your substrate, not sitting on top. So you need some way to deposit a bunch of them together. Osmocicles or capsules will help do that.
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oh OK.. so why would i want to freeze them?
and yes, do i just shove it down under my sand or gravel?

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do you guys know a good place or site that has root tabs cheap? i just went to LFS and they were $12 for 10.. is that a good price?

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do you guys know a good place or site that has root tabs cheap?
Here you can buy them on line with no charge for shipment. API brand is my favorite because the contain iron.

There are also diy recipes for them. Some sell them. Check the diy section.
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wth...since when did lnt sell fish stuffs?
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