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post #241 of 329 (permalink) Old 12-06-2013, 02:29 AM Thread Starter
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From what I understand, your regulator knob is loose and turned all the way counterclockwise when you attach the regulator to your CO2 cylinder.

Upon opening the CO2 cylinder valve, gas immediately start coming out of your pressure release valve.

This indicates a possible diaphragm rupture (high pressure side).

The low pressure diaphragm is not even in use yet, since you said that the regulator knob is turned all the way counterclockwise and loose (this means gas from the first stage has not even entered the second stage yet).

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From what I understand, your regulator knob is loose and turned all the way counterclockwise when you attach the regulator to your CO2 cylinder.

Upon opening the CO2 cylinder valve, gas immediately start coming out of your pressure release valve.

This indicates a possible diaphragm rupture (high pressure side).

The low pressure diaphragm is not even in use yet, since you said that the regulator knob is turned all the way counterclockwise and loose (this means gas from the first stage has not even entered the second stage yet).
OK so I bought the wrong parts. I need the high pressure diaphragm. If the high pressure diaphragm is working properly, there should be be zero gas coming from the relief valve or the relief valve socket correct? Do you know if the high pressure diaphragm assembly uses a different size diaphragm than the low pressure one? I was able to buy the low pressure diaphragm solo, but it looks like the high pressure one only comes as an assembly.
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OK so I bought the wrong parts. I need the high pressure diaphragm. If the high pressure diaphragm is working properly, there should be be zero gas coming from the relief valve or the relief valve socket correct? Do you know if the high pressure diaphragm assembly uses a different size diaphragm than the low pressure one? I was able to buy the low pressure diaphragm solo, but it looks like the high pressure one only comes as an assembly.
If the diaphragm is intact, gas should not come out of the pressure relief valve, assuming that the CO2 cylinder was not overfilled.

I am not sure if the VTS253 uses a different sized diaphragm; have you checked the specification sheet?

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If the diaphragm is intact, gas should not come out of the pressure relief valve, assuming that the CO2 cylinder was not overfilled.

I am not sure if the VTS253 uses a different sized diaphragm; have you checked the specification sheet?

I'm just going to open it up and look. I wasn't able to get a good enough grip on it with my tools to open the HP side. Once I take it to my shop i'll look.
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If the diaphragm is intact, gas should not come out of the pressure relief valve, assuming that the CO2 cylinder was not overfilled.

I am not sure if the VTS253 uses a different sized diaphragm; have you checked the specification sheet?
The HP diaphragm is definitely different, and is not separable from the assembly. My HP diaphragm is not damaged at all. I visually inspected it and see no tears, holes or otherwise. I spoke to victor technologies about it and they think its the seat assembly, which they don't recommend people mess with on their own.

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Just an update. I had the regulator repaired. Hp and lp seat assemblies needed to be replaced. It's now in like new condition or "certified rebuilt". My co2 system is all set up now. Thanks again for the help!
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Great to know that you're up and running now

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Thank you so much, for a newbie to pressurized C02 this was invaluable to me. I have used DIY years ago and resuming my interest in planted aquariums again. This time I didn't skimp on my tank.
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Glad that the guide was helpful for you!

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Cleanly written!! hatss off to you
1)When should I open the Co2Tank knob
after installing the regulator(with needle valve closed or open)??

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Cleanly written!! hatss off to you
1)When should I open the Co2Tank knob
after installing the regulator(with needle valve closed or open)??

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The needle valve should be open when opening the main CO2 cylinder valve.

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My co2 tank knob is like this
I'm not sure what the problem is...?

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Just say me how to fit it and when to open the nozzle ??

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Just say me how to fit it and when to open the nozzle ??
I'm still not sure what you are asking.

Just put the regulator onto the CO2 cylinder (you can see the threaded part). Then follow the instructions as I have outlined in this thread.

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