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post #211 of 329 (permalink) Old 10-14-2013, 09:57 AM
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At a guess, your over dosing co2 and the plants can't use it so the algea is jumping on it
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post #212 of 329 (permalink) Old 10-14-2013, 05:03 PM
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Can CO2 be overdosed? Wouldn't it kill the fish first?
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Can CO2 be overdosed? Wouldn't it kill the fish first?
Yea it happened to me on my 20gal. I didn't have the NV set right or I thought it was set right but 5HRS later everything dead 15-20 neon tetras, 2 glow tetras, 2 Siamese algae eaters, my 3 Cory's were weak and so was my yoyo loach. A lot of death that morning. When it's to high (CO2) you will see the fish gasp for air at the top of the water in the tank then after they will be floating upside down. If it ever happens to anyone n u catch it in time put an air stone connected to a air pump and get as much air as u can in the tank and either shut the CO2 off or turn it down.

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Sorry to hear about your losses :-(
My fish are doing pretty good tho. No gasping, or weird behavior. So I think my CO2 isn't yet at killing levels.
However, my bobble counter is going crazy with too many bobbles to count. And the inline diffuser fills tank with lots of mini bobbles.
I am wondering if it's normal. Maybe for 80 gal tank it is how much is needed.
What you think?
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Sorry to hear about your losses :-(
My fish are doing pretty good tho. No gasping, or weird behavior. So I think my CO2 isn't yet at killing levels.
However, my bobble counter is going crazy with too many bobbles to count. And the inline diffuser fills tank with lots of mini bobbles.
I am wondering if it's normal. Maybe for 80 gal tank it is how much is needed.
What you think?
Yea I don't even run a bubble counter on my custom 70 just have 2 drop checkers an they stay light green with no problem from the fish n my plants are over grown right now I cant seem to get rid of my duckweed and ricca that's floating everywhere ill toss a bunch and its back in a week lol u should see the apongeton I just took out 24" long with a ton of plantlets.
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Yeah, mine also grows huge and very fast too.

So I almost doubled the CO2 dose today. All fish still doing fine. Shrimps went close to the surface tho - that maybe a sign.
Will give it a week and see what happens.
Whole tank looks like filled with soda water - don't really like that much bobbles - maybe I should ditch the inline diffuser.
The idea was it would be more efficient and better dissolve CO2 - therefore I would need pump in less. But it doesn't seem to make much difference :-(
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*Note: These model numbers are for solenoids with a 1/8" female NPT ports on either side. If you wish to have different port sizes, I can forward you the PDF with the appropriate information.
Care to share that pdf you offer?

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Care to share that pdf you offer?

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I'm pretty sure they are on the respective manufacturer pages, but if you want a specific one, PM me which one you want, and I will dig through my files.

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If there are no fish then can you overdose c02?
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So I recently set up a paintball CO2 with an ASA valve and a Watts LFA 41 needle valve...does anyone know why I'm unable to control the bubble flow with the needle valve? I've already killed 3 fish...possibly due to the fact that it either gives me like 10 bubbles per second or no bubbles per second...
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So I recently set up a paintball CO2 with an ASA valve and a Watts LFA 41 needle valve...does anyone know why I'm unable to control the bubble flow with the needle valve? I've already killed 3 fish...possibly due to the fact that it either gives me like 10 bubbles per second or no bubbles per second...
It's the needle valve those are no good it's so hard to get the precision u need for 1-3BPS u can get it but its hard the easy way is take the diffuser off an put the end of the hose in water not tank water till u get the amt of bps u want then put the diffuser on and put in the tank.
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If there are no fish then can you overdose c02?
No, but at some point, the CO2 you are injecting will just be wasted.

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So I recently set up a paintball CO2 with an ASA valve and a Watts LFA 41 needle valve...does anyone know why I'm unable to control the bubble flow with the needle valve? I've already killed 3 fish...possibly due to the fact that it either gives me like 10 bubbles per second or no bubbles per second...
The needle valve (really, more of a flow valve) will not help control the CO2 flow rate to the level that we require in our hobby. I would suggest you get a needle/metering valve that is capable of reducing the flow to much lower levels.

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No, but at some point, the CO2 you are injecting will just be wasted.


The needle valve (really, more of a flow valve) will not help control the CO2 flow rate to the level that we require in our hobby. I would suggest you get a needle/metering valve that is capable of reducing the flow to much lower levels.
I should have just read the pages before this....sorry about this over-asked question LOL. WellI think I''ve learned the hard way...I've already killed off a few of my fish... Thanks!
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I should have just read the pages before this....sorry about this over-asked question LOL. WellI think I''ve learned the hard way...I've already killed off a few of my fish... Thanks!
If its still too high (co2 levels ) in tha tank what u can do is run an air pump with a stone for a little bit. That's only if u see the fish swimming at the top of the water once it's low enough they will start to swim lower in the tank.
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I'm having a problem with my vts 253a. I'm not sure why but the blow off valve opened and blasted gas out really loud. My delivery pressure maxed out the smaller gauge so it must have been higher than 30 psi. Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot? Also, how do I close the blowoff valve after it's blown open?

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