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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-06-2009, 12:21 AM Thread Starter
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brackish paludarium

I've been toying wth the Idea of a Brackish Paludarium. I was thinking somthing around 10-20 gallons. Probably about 40% land and 60% water. I would really love to do somthing like this but I want to get everything strightend out first. I thinking about Bumblebee Gobies and Fiddler Crabs. I wanted to check out my other options, or are there any?
Skippers would be to large right? So am I stuck with Crabs as the land animal or are there any brackish amphibians?
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-06-2009, 04:08 AM
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No, no brackish amphibians. There are some brackish reptiles, such as diamondback terrapins and salt marsh snakes, but they wouldn't be very appropriate/fish safe either. Crabs sound like your best bet, and you can probably do some small hermit crabs as well, if you have enough land area. That's a guess, though.
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There are a few skippers species that stay fairly small, but I am not too sure how available they are. You could put a couple in a 29 or 20L.

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Technically, I believe there have been studies done showing some anurans will use both brackish and freshwater systems for habitat and breeding. But for the sake of this project, no, you probably won't find any of those specimens in the pet trade.


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You're right, I stand corrected. Though I'm not sure I'd trust trying to do it in a 10-20 gallon tank. Maybe a 20L, minimum, as it seems a lot of the species I'm turning up are active (and many are larger..) Ranids, and I'd feel bad. And the gobies would probably be food :P
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Hey I have another question about this setup, would the fiddlers bother, attack, or kill the gobies? I've heard diffrent responses and was woundering if anyone could help out???
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From what I've learned keeping a reef, crabs of any type will attack and eat anything they can catch, unless they are specifically preferential to algae. Given the size of most gobies, I'd have to assume they'd get eaten pretty quick.

I don't know about fiddlers specifically, but that is a general rule of thumb for crabs.
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From what i've seen at the LFS i work at, fiddlers can't usually catch fish to eat. They're pretty slow. Not to say that if they did have a chance they wouldn't take it. Slight risk, but not too bad. I would say 80%+ chance that they would be fine with the BB goby.

As far as brackish tanks go you woud definately want a larger tank. Especially if you want some of the more common (and in my opinion, "cooler") brackish species. IE; archers, scats, monos. In the next few months i plan on setting up a 65 gallon brackish tank.

As stated earlier, you could do a 20L with a few mudskippers, and fiddlers. The skippers may eat the tiny BB gobies though.

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At one point with my old tank i did buy a single red crab and he didnt catch any fish but instead he ate all my plants... I took him back to the store. I dont like crabs anymore to say the least..

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