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post #16 of 34 (permalink) Old 12-04-2011, 06:32 PM
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And only if the pond is huge. With water lilies. Does it ever get below freezing in Malaysia?

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Hey doncityz did you see my response in my journal thread, it has some suggestions that might be easier right now for you than getting a new tank.
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And only if the pond is huge. With water lilies. Does it ever get below freezing in Malaysia?
Nope.
The coldest we get around here is perhaps 25C. and that is outdoor, night time.
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good job on trying to improve your fish's quality of life. i'd personally suggest that you add at least a 20, better yet a 40 watt grow light(eco lux are like 10 bucks everywhere) and two more cuttings to each planter and one of those hermit coconut climbing walls so the pothos have something to climb up(not essential but makes a better presentation). with the light the pothos's growth will take off using up all that nitrogen and what not. My opinion is fancy goldfish have extreme physical deformities and placing them in large tanks with overpowered filters may force them to work more then their bodies may be able to handle. esp. not knowing the lineage of that fish. With that said i keep my fancies in those 8 dollar round tubs they sell for storage/ice buckets at most department stores. they hold about 18 gallons of water and make really nice indoor ponds esp with the 40 watt lighting suggested. But these are just my opinions. seems like a return to the store is never the best solution.
Hm.. that is interesting to read. THanks for chipping in the thread...
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Nope.
The coldest we get around here is perhaps 25C. and that is outdoor, night time.
Oh wow.. That's really hot then. Not very familiar with ponds but that'd be TONS of evaporation. Are you running like AC 24/7 inside your house? How are you keeping your tanks cooler? At least you never have to worry about heating your tanks...

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Oh wow.. That's really hot then. Not very familiar with ponds but that'd be TONS of evaporation. Are you running like AC 24/7 inside your house? How are you keeping your tanks cooler? At least you never have to worry about heating your tanks...
We're all pretty much got used to the temperature. 25 is quite cold. 28 feels normal. I only run the AC at night for a comfy sleep. I just run the tank like that... it just follows the environment. Ranging from 28-29. So far everything is good.
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You could probabily keep some sulawesi species of shrimps. I heard those are super hard and will die on arrival haha, but people have trouble keeping their temperature really high. No worries for where you live though!

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Sulawesi species? Never seen them in the lfs though... probably i should try to catch them wild lol.

Anyway, i just got a square polycarbonate 2'x2'x1' outdoor pond. i plan to put Dorothy in there... not sure if i can fit another goldfish to be her friend in there.. 2x2x1 works out to be 30gal. but, not going to fill it up fully..

i haven't got a pump but i think tomorrow im going to use my spare pump to start the cycling process. i need to get some plants as well to decorate the boring square container.

i wonder though, will cats eat my fish?

anyway, since Dorothy is moving to a better place... this tank.... will be.... budum budum bududududummm.... *to be continued lol
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That will be much better for her, the general rule for fancy goldfish is 15 gallons for the first fancy goldfish them ten gallons there after for any other added fish. I had a 29 gallon with my two fancies and they got big and just seemed cramped in the 29, the pond will be ok for her and another small fancy but expect to upgrade in a year or two!

Dont forget to post pics of her new home when you have it all set up!
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anyway, since Dorothy is moving to a better place... this tank.... will be.... budum budum bududududummm.... *to be continued lol
I'll finish that sentence for you -> SHRIMP TANK! haha. But yea those Sulawesi shrimps are super picky about parameters. So I'd try out some bee shrimp before moving onto those :O

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And +1 on the pond pictures when its done setting up.

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In the short term you could get some.. wait for it.. duckweed. It sucks up the ammonia and nitrites and your goldfish gets a yummy green salad to snack on
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That will be much better for her, the general rule for fancy goldfish is 15 gallons for the first fancy goldfish them ten gallons there after for any other added fish. I had a 29 gallon with my two fancies and they got big and just seemed cramped in the 29, the pond will be ok for her and another small fancy but expect to upgrade in a year or two!

Dont forget to post pics of her new home when you have it all set up!
Yeah I read about that rule in google as well, right after you told me about stunting and stuffs.

Pics are coming by this weekend. I'll put the 2 zebra danios i have in there first during cycling. The 2 danios have been helping me with lots of tank cycling so far they've done 3 tanks cycling. Good ol' danios! Bless them.

I plant to cycle the pond for 2 weeks, using some sponge bio media that i have in my 10g. (i put extra in there for cases like this. ).

diwu13, i can't reveal it yet. It's not another shrimp tank though. I'd like varieties in my house.. soo... its gotta be something else.. i have one particular creature in mind... hehe.

Sushieraser, duckweed... man i hate that stuff. covers up all the surface, then i am not able to see Dorothy anymore... I am thinking of couples of Pistia stratiotes though.
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Frogs? Crabs? Hamster cage?

As for your pond, if you put a fence around it that should deter cats right? Or do cats climb fences?

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Frogs? Crabs? Hamster cage?

As for your pond, if you put a fence around it that should deter cats right? Or do cats climb fences?
Haha.. none of the above.

Cats are crazy animal. That much i know cause i have 2 of them. So, fences do not stop them. Stray cats are even crazier. But my uncle have 2-3 of these ponds, and so far cats aren't interested in them. But my uncle said he saw rats as big as cats fishing the fish using his tail...
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