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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 09-04-2003, 01:40 AM Thread Starter
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Hey guys! I'm not sure if this is the right board or even the right forum, but mabye you guys can help me out. For some reason I can remember seeing a post about extreamly large, preformed ponds. And I'm not talking big, I'm talkin freakin huge. There was a link to a site that sold these large ponds. If anybody can show me this post or a site that sells very large preformed pond, it would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but this site just seemed to stick out in my mind for some reason. Thanks!!

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I used a small (125g) preformed pond. I've seen them as big as 250g at Home Depot, but how big are we talking?

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The pond I'm talking about were made out of steel i think. You could also buy concrete vats. It was like a site for fish farm supplies. the ponds were up to 20,000 gallons. I'm obviousley no looking to buy a 20,000 gallon steel pond, but I might like to find something a little more managable. Thanks again for any help.

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Why not just dig a big hole and line it with betonite clay or better yet a rubber liner. Its got to be cheaper than a steel pond and a lot more user friendly. Just my $.02.

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i have a pond in my backyard that i was going to tear down. i took out the liner and stuff, but now the water still sits there, so its a natural pond now. weird. i even have a fish that i through in to see if it would survive. so far so good. don't have to feed or clean or anything.
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I was just wondering if you guys could show me a site or the post, but I guess I got the wrong forum. Sorry for the trouble. Thanks.

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hmmmm,
I thought the big hole with clay lining or rubber was an excellent suggestion. I am thinking of pouring cement when I am ready... thats my # 1 choice right now.
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Sweet!!! I found the site!!!! It www.aquatic-eco.com . Just look under ponds and then under tanks and liners and you can find everything from fiberglass vats to 19,000 gallon storage tanks!! They're actually more affordable then you would think, and a lot easier on the back then digging a 30ft. wide 4ft. deep hole in the ground! Thanks for trying to help guys! I hope this helps someone....somehow....err.....yeah. Thanks again!

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I am thinking of pouring cement when I am ready... thats my # 1 choice right now.
I'm not a big fan of this route as the cement can actually be abbrasive to the fish. I agree that its an awesome way (structurally) to make a pond, but in practice it can cause grief. Using large EPDM/Rubber liners (although expensive) is generally a good way to go
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Ya still have to dig Bert, unless you build everything up around it... now you really have me confused.
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As far as the cement bottom goes, it will have at least a 2" base of sand throughout it Gareth..... not left as cement.
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I got a 300 gallon galvanized metal stock tank at the local Feed store for $75. 5' diam x 2' tall. With an exit plug at the bottom.

My pond at homeis made of this, lined with EPDM, surrounded with 2"fence posts and metal banding. If I had it all to do over again, I'd use that plug to run an external pump and filter perhaps.
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Tanks may be partially buried to conserve heat and make fish observations easier.
I read the entire page and it says nothing about having to burry the tank. You will have to dig out for the concrete base, but I'd rent a bobcat for that . Especialy for a 30ft., 19,000 gallon, steel tank.

I'm not seriously thinking about getting one of these monsters. Atleast not until I'm a millionair!! It is just a fantisy I have and I think we all have. You know, to have the biggest tank you could ever imagine. Oh well, I guess its back to dreaming!

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Buck, search for cement pond issues... Besides PH issues, from the high lime content, there are issues with... Black Algae, leaking, major stress cracks, you also need a steel frame. Arg, Fiberglass would be my first choice, followed by a natural clay brick and plastic tarped pond. Use the plastic under the clay and clay brick, not on top of it. Built like the reflection pool in Washington D.C., not like a classic slope banked pond.

Eventually the plastic will rot and crack, but will still help the clay retain water levels. Just don't build this within 80 feet of a fir tree, it will suck the pond dry and destroy the liner. (Sap and plastic don't mix, same with lime in cement!)

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The bad thing with cement is that it will buffer the ph up because of the lime content. You may need to dose with phosphric acid to get it down. The best bet is a rubber or PVC liner.

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