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Ok i have this small black bushy algy growing to length of a centimeter, and I can't get rid of it. Is there a fish that will eat it, becuase I really need one that will. I'm not keen about soaking my plants in stuff to kill it. BUt i am willing to buy a fish that will eat it. Also i have this redish hair algae growing on my plants leaves as well, how do i get rid of that? (fish wise)

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This is the algae i have.



PLEASE I NEED HELP!

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That would be the dreaded bba (black brush algae). I've been fighting that one off to varying degrees forever.

Check out this and this and this and good luck. Keep us posted.

ETA: nice pic btw!

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And when you are done with that home work, I would suggest posting your tank specs and what your water specs (ph,kh,gh,nitrates,phosphates,ect)are. That way we can help you find the cause of your algae....

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And no tv until you get that homework done...

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And no tv until you get that homework done...
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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I finished my homework, although am currently studying for the chem unit test :roll: . I thought those sites were very useful, but I will have those results by tomorrow, unfortunetly i do not have a phosphate test kit. Sorry! And my LFS finds it hard to get the SAE in, very rare now.

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I finished my homework, although am currently studying for the chem unit test :roll: . I thought those sites were very useful, but I will have those results by tomorrow, unfortunetly i do not have a phosphate test kit. Sorry! And my LFS finds it hard to get the SAE in, very rare now.

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A+ for effort thus far ... Tell us about your tank specs; C02, lighting, fish load, plants etc....

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And my LFS finds it hard to get the SAE in, very rare now.
Some fish seem to come around in cycles. It's often impossible to find SAEs around here too, but right now they're everywhere. Same with female bettas. Didn't see them at all for the longest time, and now there are tons. Beautiful little fish.

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I guess I'm a bit of a heretic. I actually like the stuff. I have a piece of driftwood that's fairly covered in it. Doesn't spread much since I got lots of plants and high light. The SAE's and mollies keep it trimmed to a pretty uniform height and they seem to be able to keep it from spreading much now.

When I had only a few plants and low light I would have to fight it to keep it in check.

I did dip the driftwood once in a bleach solution. Killed it but now I've got veins of java moss all through it and it looks cool. Only other place it grows now is on the cord to a submersed heater and the backs of a few older pond snails. Java moss and java fern are spreading slowly over it and I supect eventually it will lose.

It even pearls a bit in the afternoon.
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I guess I'm a bit of a heretic. I actually like the stuff.
[small voice] it is pretty [/small voice]

But when you're at that low light & fighting it stage, and it's everywhere... aaaargh!

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Don't mean to walk on scalare altum's thread but hate to start a new one for the same problem! I have a 2 month old 75g "upgraded" from an existing 29g. I have 39 small fish (tetras, rasboras) and several dozen plants. My water is

ph: 7.2
gh: 4
kh: 6
phosphate: .04
nitrate: 11
nitrite & ammonia: unmeasurable
watts/gal light: 3.4
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DIY CO2 (works so far, besides can't afford better right now)
15% water change twice weekly

I had multiple algaes spreading everywhere but fish are happy and plants are growing like mad. I have to trim weekly. I began dosing Flourish and Kent FE per the bottle and adding potassium chloride per Chuck's calculator to find a balance and stop the algae. Algae is better except I can't stop the bba. It is overrunning all the slower growing plants and the substrate. Also leaves on some plants are curling and others are yellowing on the edges.
Typing in the info I realized that my phosphate is .04 vice .4 so I just double checked and .04 is correct. Looks like I need to run to the drug store and get some Fleet Enema yes? If I missed something else please point it out. I'm not to proud to seek advice. Geez, balancing a high light tank is MUCH harder than my old 1.8 watt/gallon tank. Also being patient enough to let adjustments take effect is tough.
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Yep phosphate is a little low. But looking at your Ph/Kh you are only running at @7.5ppm of C02... Try and get that C02 level up to the 20ppm range which should bring your Ph under 7 this should help alot....


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When I had low light and no plants to speak of it was easy to clean. I could root around and dip things to my hearts content. I will admit it was everywhere then. It did try to get the plants when I first up graded but the plants won on their own.

2 months now I think on high light for me. The BBA is really pretty much staying on the one old piece of driftwood. I see it on one rock too but Java moss is creeping into it.

I'm fairly patient when it comes to plants and critters. I enjoy watching things grow and change. I do notice a subtle color change in the BBA. It isn't so dark now as it was. Not a happy dark green now.
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Sorry I'm late passing in my homework.

Ok here is my results: pH=7.0, GH=20ppm, KH=60ppm, ammonia=0ppm, nitrIte=.2ppm (what is up with that, my tank is 10 1/2 months old), nitrAtes=5ppm

Hope this helps, i plan to get my phosphates tested soon.

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