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post #136 of 455 (permalink) Old 03-21-2013, 01:16 PM
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I did this yesterday, and it really worked. Tank looks great! However, due to being a noob, I used regular Flourish instead of Excel. Totally thought they were the same thing. Have I doomed my tank to another algae outbreak?

Seachem really needs to rename and repackage this line. Even the bottles are virtually identical.
The nutrients you added would feed the algae instead of hurt it, but given its weakened state, it may still get stunted slightly by a nutrient spike. Would eventually rebound though I am guessing. Another 50% water change followed by excel dosing may help. Or you can just dose excel too.

I also tried this last night. I'll report on the effects after 48 hrs.

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flourish is different from excel. excel is a carbon source, and flourish is primarily macro nutrients. (correct me if I'm wrong)
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You're right, Aokashi. And I agree the naming could be better, seen plenty of instances of it leading to confusion.
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flourish is different from excel. excel is a carbon source, and flourish is primarily macro nutrients. (correct me if I'm wrong)
Flourish is a product line by seachem which includes excel, comprehensive, and other ferts.

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I meant as in seachem flourish
as opposed to seachem flourish excel

I've seen people buy the wrong products online because of the naming...
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I am crossing my fingers that the algae will stay gone. Glad I have these tanks set up with no fish yet. The learning curve has been steep.

Now I know. Seachem Flourish not the same as Seachem Florish Excel.
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I did this about a 1/2 hr ago & was wondering when I should start seeing results? I have a small break out of BBA & I don't see any kind of fizzing yet... Just curious as 2 when I will notice anything. Thx n advance, Steve
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SOOOoooo it didn't work... And it just hit me that I thought I doubled the dose, when really all I did was give the 1.5 tbsp per 10 gallons.... dumb. I put in 9 tbsp of H2O2 for a 72 bow tank thinking that is was 1 tbsp to 10 gallons at the time of adding. I also moved all my fish other than a pleco to another tank to make sure it was safe. Not really much of a change but my swords do look a little bright green now. I'm pretty sure none of the algae died at all. I'm going to try again next week. This time when I took the filter bio stuff out, a ton of CRAP came out and filled the tank that must have been under it... I'm guess the H2O2 got eaten up by that before it had a chance to attack the furry algae. Algae 1 - Ccbeauch 0. well played algae, well played.

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stevekx500: The algae itself won't fizz directly, as you might have seen with an H2O2 spot treatment.

Instead, you'll get an overall fizz. Could be mild. Or could be intense, if you normally have pearling plants and the water is already thoroughly saturated with oxygen. It resembles the "false pearling" many see after a water change.

If successful, the BBA will typically start to discolor within a day or two, and start decomposing around day three.
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ccbeauch: Just saw your ninja post. The same I wrote to stevekx500 applies to you and your BBA, as well. 1.5 tbsp. per 10G is a little light, but you'll need to wait three days to know the results.
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A side plus though, my vaccume hose hasn't been this clean since I bought it! My had was also cleaned and purged of its dead skin and looks very clean as well. Guess there were some pluses from this blunder. Hopefuly the algae doesn't build up an immunity from this low dose by next week...

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DarkCobra: Well I'm glad it has to be 3 days. I kinda thought it would just disolve before my eyes or something. Maybe if I cross my fingers it will work and I wont have to redo this. Catching the Marlboro and the Blue diamond took 30 minutes... I felt like the part time guy at petsmart trying to catch that one specific black molly after a new shipment had just come in.

also, it took me 30 minutes to drain the tank down and another 25 to fill it. Is that too long of a process?

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ccbeauch: There was someone who had some losses earlier in the thread, which may have been caused in part by a long drain/fill time. But that was at the original and stronger 4 tbsp./10G recommendation. The new recommendation provides a greater safety margin, and you dosed below even that. So I don't expect any issues, but as always, keep me informed of anything you notice.
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stevekx500: The algae itself won't fizz directly, as you might have seen with an H2O2 spot treatment.

Instead, you'll get an overall fizz. Could be mild. Or could be intense, if you normally have pearling plants and the water is already thoroughly saturated with oxygen. It resembles the "false pearling" many see after a water change.

If successful, the BBA will typically start to discolor within a day or two, and start decomposing around day three.
Awesome. I will keep an eye on it for a couple days. My plants r always covered n air bubbles after my water changes till the next day so I will just keep an eye on it. I did dose more than 2 Tbsp per 10g but not quite 4 Tbsp per 10g so we will see. Hopefully it works. Have a good 1.
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Also, I am due this evening 2 dose my micro & macro ferts. With having 2 dose 2 nite should I hold off since I just nuked my tank? If i wait how long?
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