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BBA - Hydrogen peroxide or Flourish Excel

OK, i have a tiny bit of BBA on an amazon sword, but i want to get rid of it before it spreads. So for the people who have used both Hydrogen peroxide and Flourish Excel, what is better?
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Depends what is near it.

With the filters off hydrogen peroxide spot treat destroys bba after 2 doses 6-12 hours apart.
Excel is much less effective in my experience.
However if bba is near HC or moss I don't a lot treat with hydrogen peroxide because I almost always end up killing loads of it.
At that point I cut, use tongs to pluck it off and then either do two or three x daily hydrogen peroxide spot treating with filter on or excel with filter off.
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If it's only a little on a few leaves then trim them off. If you need to treat it in my experience, hydrogen peroxide is much more effective in spot treatment.

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Depends what is near it.

With the filters off hydrogen peroxide spot treat destroys bba after 2 doses 6-12 hours apart.
Excel is much less effective in my experience.
However if bba is near HC or moss I don't a lot treat with hydrogen peroxide because I almost always end up killing loads of it.
At that point I cut, use tongs to pluck it off and then either do two or three x daily hydrogen peroxide spot treating with filter on or excel with filter off.
I have also experienced the same thing. H2O2 works best for me.
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I don't have BBA yet, but I want to put this in the memory banks.

You spot-treat with H202 directly into the tank? Do you perform a water change right after, or wait until regular maintenance?

How does it affect inhabitants?

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I don't have BBA yet, but I want to put this in the memory banks.

You spot-treat with H202 directly into the tank? Do you perform a water change right after, or wait until regular maintenance?

How does it affect inhabitants?
I use h2o2 at a rate of 10ml per gallon. When I have used more then that, I have killed my ottos. At 10ml per gallon, I wait until regular maintenance.

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I've actually had REALLY good success spot treating with excel.. Everything died the next day, every time. I've never used hydrogen peroxide for algae but, it just turns into oxygen and water in water after 12 hours. I've used it to cure fin rot (very very effective) at 8-9 drops per gallon and it was safe with discus and plants. I'm not sure what that translates into ml though!
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Dose excel into your water column. If you are open to ADA products: Phyton Git will remove BBA from anubias leaves, surfaces etc.

Non-ADA at all:

Do manual removal as much as possible (use your fingernail to scrape it off with filter off), do a water change. Trim any leaves that have it on there. Be aggressive.

Fill back up with water, dose excel into the water column and bump up your amount of co2 you are putting into the water. BBA shows as an inconsistency in Co2 levels in the aquarium in the first place.

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Step 1 manual remove
Step 2 water change
Step 3 excel + increase co2 (preventative)
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OK, i have a tiny bit of BBA on an amazon sword, but i want to get rid of it before it spreads. So for the people who have used both Hydrogen peroxide and Flourish Excel, what is better?
Thanks!
Specifically to this: cut the leaf immediately. Dose Excel into the water column after a water change and increase co2 levels in the aquarium.
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If you manually remove it be sure it comes out of the tank, not just off the glass. It'll just grow elsewhere in the tank.
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I use h2o2 at a rate of 10ml per gallon. When I have used more then that, I have killed my ottos. At 10ml per gallon, I wait until regular maintenance.
Yeah be careful with hydro pero because ive killed off more than an oto with it.........

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Is 10ml/per gallon an accurate dose? I though it was more like 1:1?
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So I just get a syringe and squirt it on the plant IN the tank WITH the fish.Im getting hair algae and want to do this.Regular store bought h202 used for cuts?
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Correct.
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Is 10ml/per gallon an accurate dose? I though it was more like 1:1?
3ml/gallon is usually more than enough. Too much and you are risking damaging the plants or fauna. 1:1 for too long of a time can completely melt plants down. So if you go this route, it's better to do it outside of the tank and rinse within a few minutes. Remember that this is an oxidizer and not selective on what it goes after. Better to go slow and easy than to bomb the tank.

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