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Thread/Hair Algae help

I have read that this algae comes from excess iron which I am assuming came from the fert tabs I put in when i planted some stems 2 weeks ago.

I dose about 1 tbs of micro/macro mix from aquariumfertilizer.com everyday (miss a day here and there), 2 t5ho bulbs, 30-50% water changes every week, lights were on for about 8 hours but I lowered it to 7 today and I will start to dose 1/2 tbsp. My co2 is coming in through an inline diffuser so I don't know the bps.

Has anyone else here defeated this algae??













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In my experience, this algae (along with others) is triggered by ammonia in the water, and CO2 deficiency

How old is the tank?

Can you test for ammonia?

Pressurized CO2?

Get a drop checker at the very least to get an idea of your CO2 level.

I'd remove what I can manually with a toothbrush, and add amano shrimp if possible. Most importantly, need to have enough CO2.
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Can't help you with the algae, but if that's a Marineland Stealth heater, you might want to read this:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11202.html
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/eq...ro-heater.html

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In my experience, this algae (along with others) is triggered by ammonia in the water, and CO2 deficiency

How old is the tank?

Can you test for ammonia?

Pressurized CO2?

Get a drop checker at the very least to get an idea of your CO2 level.

I'd remove what I can manually with a toothbrush, and add amano shrimp if possible. Most importantly, need to have enough CO2.
The tank is 3?? months old. After the fishless cycle, I tested for ammonia and nitrates for about a month after I added fish.. Everything was normal so i stopped testing. I changed water today, so I will wait a couple days to test it.

Yes, pressurized co2. I have a bubble counter, but need to get new fittings in order for it to fit.
Every morning I turn to co2 up to the point that it is a fog flowing out of the spray bar. One day I came home and saw all my fish at the surface so I have a good idea of what is too much for my fish.

Can I dose ferts with amano shrimp?
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Can't help you with the algae, but if that's a Marineland Stealth heater, you might want to read this:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11202.html
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/eq...ro-heater.html
My heart skipped a beat as I read those articles because I couldn;t remember what heater I bought.

Mine is a Aqueon
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You can dose ferts with amanos. In my experience a couple hours is fine for testing ammonia after a water change unless you've really stirred things up.

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Tested ammonia this morning.
came up between 0 mad .25
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meh i have that problem also, so +1 for solution.

from what i was reading on this forum... i heard if u dose excel it will help clear it out...
It will turn brown.. and then disappear....

Also that algae problem is not a phosphate problem.... <--- this is what im hearing most of the experts here say...

But right now i almost gave up, im waiting for my bottle of excel b4 i actually start doing spot H2O2 treatment...

I heard H2O2 kills almost any kind of algae... literally melts them...

Also i noticed my hair algae started from the lava rocks like you have... did yours start from there?
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No.. I first noticed it right below the heater on the left side of the tank then spread across the hc and up onto the rocks.
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id wait for someone else to say excel b4 u try excel tho.

as i said, im not too sure, but i did read quite a lot to dose with excel and pray for the best.. lol...
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dose excel while running co2?
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Shouldn't hurt anything. It's a mild algaecide too.

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Tested ammonia this morning.
came up between 0 mad .25
That color on an ammonia test tells us you're using a Nessler's reagent based ammonia test. You're seeing both free and bound ammonia (ammonium).
A reading of .25 - .5 is not necessarily a useful or accurate reading.

You might want to use the search feature to look at black outs, or deliberate over dosing with glutaraldehyde or Excel to kill the algae.
Spot treating with Hydrogen Peroxide H2O2 can be very helpful.
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I have it too on a piece of driftwood that has moss attached. It's about to take a H2O2 dip this evening to see what happens. It isn't anywhere else in the tank. I do have diatoms and I'm not getting green algae on the glass so I need to figure that one out. Might get some ottos to take care of that issue.
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