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What are some good tank mates for german blue rams. Are tetras or other dwarf cichlids ok?

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Well, if you want them to mate, I wouldn't put any tank mates in there with them once they pair off. I've bred my rams, almost successfully. Rams are excellent parents for the first day and a half. On the second day, they tend to forget their eggs for some time but will eventually go back to them. If there are other fish in the 20g, the eggs will surely be someones snack.

I got my rams to breed at pH 6.4, GH 2, Temp 82.

They like extremely soft water and high temps. This should simulate the rainy season that they spawn during.

They are extremely sensitive to ammonia and to nitrites. But they're beautiful. I've kept mine with Angelfish, tetras, corys, apistos. Just non-aggressive fish. Angelfish and Rams and discus are probably the least aggressive of the cichlids.

Anyway. Good luck with them. You can add peat to your water to soften it, it will also make it more acidic. However, I'm not sure what that will do to your CO2.
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Can kribs go with bleu rams or apistogramma nijsseni. Also can tetras survive with a PH lower than 6.5?

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I've kept neon and glowlight at 6.5. I think they would prefer it to be a little higher though it should be fine. Apistogramma nijsseni should also thrive at 6.5 and softwater. Fish like tetras and angels (fish that aren't too picky about water quality) will be able to adapt to a lower pH as long as you do it gradually. Most fish have this ability. However, I tried to keep rams at a very alkaline pH and it didn't work out too well. Poor experiment. The apisto and rams should do well at the above water params. Just be mindful of your water changes each week, make sure your tank is cycled (test for nitrites and ammonia....make sure it's 0) then put the rams in and you should be fine. They shouldn't be that difficult if you match their water and maintain it.

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I believe that where the apistogramma nijsseni comes from, the water is almost pH of 5.6 and 1GH. Try to get your hands on tank bred/raised ones.
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BTW

I know that Kribs can tolerate different water types, however, I've never kept them with the blue ram.
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I bought a german blue ram about a month ago. He was eating well and didnt appear to have any diseases but when I got home the other night I saw that he had died mysteriously. He had good color and had no other diseases that I could see and my water had no nitrites or ammonia with a ph between 6.8-7.2 and with a gh of 6 and a kh of 4. Maybe the fish had internal parasites or something. Any ideas on why the blue ram died?

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Well put some Hex-a-mit then for mysterious death. Sometimes things happen that cannot be explained. Maybe internal or something.
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Well put some Hex-a-mit then for mysterious death. Sometimes things happen that cannot be explained. Maybe internal or something.
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BTW Was your tank cycled?
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My tank has been running now for about 8 months so it is cycled. What is hex-a-mit?

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its fish medicine. You can purchase in your LFS. they come in pills you open the pills and put the powder(medicine) in the tank. i think 1 pill per 10 gallons
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Be careful about adding meds to your tank. Good luck.
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Kribs will shred those Rams if you put them together IME.Especially if it's a mating pair of Kribs.Those little guys are meaner than they look.





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E.Simpson is correct, you dont want to be putting in Kribs with rams, unless you want dead rams.... Not to mention they require different water conditions...


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E.Simpson is correct, you dont want to be putting in Kribs with rams, unless you want dead rams.... Not to mention they require different water conditions...
:?: Kribs and rams prefer quite similar water conditions.
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