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Live Cultures??? (Daphnia, White worms, Grindal Worms, brine shrimps, etc..

I got a paired of puffer fish and bumblebee goby & I've try feeding them everything possible but they are very picky eater. The only thing I've had success with, is brine shrimp; but they are too much work, expensive & died easily.

My question is... what other alternative live culture foods can Ii feed them? I want it to be low maintenance, disease free, parasite free, easily culture, high in nutrients.? ?
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I feed my dp white worms. easy and simple and cheap. with 2 plastic shoeboxes I feed 11 dp and could probably feed 30 dp.
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Grindal worms.

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Live Cultures??? (Daphnia, White worms, Grindal Worms, brine shrimps, etc..

White worms. Clean and easy to culture, fish love em.
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If you don't want to keep worms, try feeding decapsulated brine shrimp eggs.


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If you don't want to keep worms, try feeding decapsulated brine shrimp eggs.
I don't think a dp would eat thoses
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I feed my dp white worms.
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Grindal worms.
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White worms. Clean and easy to culture, fish love em.
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If you don't want to keep worms, try feeding decapsulated brine shrimp eggs.
They are very picky and only prefer live food. Why would you guys recommend your worms over other, like daphnia? Any experienced (con and pro) with culturing multiple species is much appreciated.
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white worms

1. get plastic shoebox, get jiffy seed starter mix, get water, get 100 whiteworms

2 put 2" jiffy mix in shoebox

3. add water until wet (clumps easily but not dripping). keep it this way.

4. add white worms

5. add a little bit of fish food (some use bread and yogurt- too hard! just use fish food)

6. put shoebox in closet and forget it

7 fish food should be gone in 2 days--add some more.

8. continue 5,6 and 7, a little bit of fish food should slowly double then triple.

9. 1x a week mix up the whole mix with spoon, fingers, etc

10. in 5 weeks or so you will have thousands, i put a square piece of plastic (some suggest a CD disk case cover) on top of the jiffy mix and put the food underneath. i can usually scrape off the worms or scoop a bunch out of the substrate.

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still wondering why you guys would choose them over other? con & pro would also help...
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white worms
pros
1. my fish eat them
2. easy
3. they eat fish food so they have at least some fish food and the nutrition of fish food in ther gut

cons of all the others
1. I don't have them
2. my fish dp will ignore the smaller worms if larger are present. full grown white worms seem the perfect size for dp
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white worms
pros
1. my fish eat them
2. easy
3. they eat fish food so they have at least some fish food and the nutrition of fish food in ther gut

cons of all the others
1. I don't have them
2. my fish dp will ignore the smaller worms if larger are present. full grown white worms seem the perfect size for dp
I've heard you have to put this in the fridge around 55f? around here is 74f-89f
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i keep them in my closet, up to 76, haven't tried warmer.
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I culture daphnia, white worms and grindal worms. Overall, grindals are easiest because they don't mind heat. But they are too small for many fish. White worms are great, but if your temperature gets into the mid-seventies, reproduction will slow down. But you can get a wine cooler for around 60 bucks. This works very well and makes them just as easy as grindals.

Daphnia are a little trickier to culture, but not too bad once you have a system. I've settled on keeping them in shallow water about 3-4 inches, so I don't need an air pump or any circulation. They also do well without a light or heater. I just sprinkle some food in every day and give them a stir. Feeding small amounts daily seems to reduce the boom-bust cycle that they are known for.

In general, daphnia are a little more trouble because they need to be in water. So they take up more space, you need to occasionally change the water or start a new culture and harvesting is messier than worms (but maybe that's just me). Also, if you have very soft water, you'll need to increase the GH in order to get good production.

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Click on the link below for the easy healthy way to cultivate Daphnia.

Keep your live food as clean as you would your aquarium.

If you cannot keep daphnia alive...I wouldn't even trust you with my pet rock!

Check out my Daphnia Farm
http://www.caudata.org/forum/f1173-a...arm-enjoy.html
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