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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-03-2013, 08:29 PM Thread Starter
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Dead German Rams

I keep a heavily planted 55 gal tank with 5 Discus, shrimp, plecos, corys and loaches. Never have any problems. (ph7-82 degrees)
I thought some German Rams would fit in nicely and got 5 nice ones. One by one they all died over a few months. No other fish, just the rams.
I rotated food between beefheart, dried tubifex and frozen blood worms.
Any thoughts on why this might have happened?
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Need more info on water parameters, but rams like SOFT water definitely leaning toward the acidic side more than neutral. They're known to be delicate which I think finishes them off on the long run, but they fight ill parameters with typical cichlid toughness. Sorry. I've been there many many times with rams.
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Where'd ya get em?
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that happened to me with a couple of them. I just kept getting more till I found a batch that lived. have not lost one in over 6 months

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Rams are picky and IME very susceptible to stress. I had 3 pairs in a 40 gallon heavily planted. One pair died off and the other 2 have been going strong for a while now, but I had to combat some ich issues in the beginning too. I know for a fact my rams have died from fighting each other. Perhaps that happened to yours? Though in a 55 gallon that is planted, it should be ok.
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he has discus... water parameters shouldnt be too much of an issue...

IME rams are super hard to keep alive for the first few months in a new tank. I fully depends on where the new stock is from

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I fully agree that a key factor is where this fish is bred. Try to find a quality breeder here in the U.S. because I think that might be the vital mistake that many are making when buying rams.
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Its been a couple months since I added my GBR male/female in my 20 long. They seem to be loving it! So colorful, despite tank being ph of about 7.5 and kh and gh around 7. Got them from PetSmart.

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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-06-2013, 01:02 AM
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I never had luck with GBR, and have tried them several times, but they always died within a few weeks to a month. I even tried altering my water parameters... using RO water to soften it, still without success.

About 8 months ago, I heard of a local seller (matt13) on these boards and figured I'd give it another go. Of the 8 I bought 5 are still alive and doing very well.

The chain store Rams come from Florida fish farms, and they are riddled with hormones and disease. I would recommend giving them a try if you can find a local breeder who uses tap water, otherwise contact the seller on this board and I'm sure you will have better results.
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