Also the GCCA swap is coming up during the second Sunday in April. It's located in Hillside. Here is the link to there site http://www.gcca.net/. I know there are a couple of guys that sell rams and I know I've seen one fella with electric blues and long finned electric blues. It's a big swap with a lot of nice stuff to buy. I usually attend 2-3 events a year. +1 also on Matt13. I started this hobby with the intentions of rams but he had some Apistos which I bought a harem from and that is how my Apisto addiction began lol.