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Swordtail in community tank ?'s

I have 7 Danios, 5 Otos and 8 guppies in a 40 breeder (half of the guppies are fry) and I'm trying to decide on what fish to add next. I would love to add some swordtails but I really want to keep the peace and not add stress to any of the other fish.

Do swordtails tend to get aggressive? Do they fin nip? Can I safely keep about 7 without any issues?

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I always thought that Swords are a great comm tank co-habitat.
To me, a more exciting live bearer than guppy's.

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I always thought that Swords are a great comm tank co-habitat.
To me, a more exciting live bearer than guppy's.
I had just heard a few possible issues with them so wanted to clear that up. What's a recommended number for keeping them? Can I get away with 6? 2 male, 4 female?
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I've always had good luck with them. If you start out with six, you'll soon have more.

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What is the size of your tank, adult swordtails reach more than 10cm, something we tend to forget. They need a somewhat large tank.

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I think you'll be good. I love swordtails. My favorite variety are the long finned/lyre tail kind. I haven't ever seen them anywhere but on liveaquaria, yet my local petco was able to get them in for me.
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Swordtails are fine for a community tank. I had this one guy since the beginning. He was doing great until one of the other inhabitants got real nasty for some reason and nipped off the tails of a bunch of fish (they're all gone now).

But swordtails are pretty chill and don't bother anyone. Not 100% sure, but don't they crossbreed with other livebearers (the guppies)?
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I have 7 Danios, 5 Otos and 8 guppies in a 40 breeder (half of the guppies are fry) and I'm trying to decide on what fish to add next. I would love to add some swordtails but I really want to keep the peace and not add stress to any of the other fish.

Do swordtails tend to get aggressive? Do they fin nip? Can I safely keep about 7 without any issues?

Thanks for any info.
Hello hunt...

Most aquarium fish will make a target of the male Fancy Guppies' tail. With the possible exception of Corydoras (the little cats) and guppies, it's best to keep guppies in a "species" tank.

Livebearers like Fancy Guppies and Swordtails are brackish water fish and do best if you add a bit of standard aquarium salt to their tank water. I add roughly a half teaspoon to a teaspoon for every 5 gallons of new, treated tap water. I've kept Tetras and Shrimp in tanks with a bit of salt, with no problems and now have large planted tanks of Fancy Guppies and Corys.

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What is the size of your tank, adult swordtails reach more than 10cm, something we tend to forget. They need a somewhat large tank.

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I have a 40 breeder, seems fitting enough.


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Swordtails are fine for a community tank. I had this one guy since the beginning. He was doing great until one of the other inhabitants got real nasty for some reason and nipped off the tails of a bunch of fish (they're all gone now).

But swordtails are pretty chill and don't bother anyone. Not 100% sure, but don't they crossbreed with other livebearers (the guppies)?
I'm pretty set on getting them after doing research, I'm sure the wild "green" ones need some brackish but bred and raised strains such as red and what not are perfectly fine and purely fresh water to my knowledge.

If I got some guppy/swordtail crossbreeds I'd be so down!
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If I got some guppy/swordtail crossbreeds I'd be so down!
Lol-"Gourdtails". I never had them interbreed or have "relations". Have one gup now that is suspiciously colored like my sole remaining pineapple sword. His tail has a slight sword growing off the lower part of his "fan", too, but could be a recessive lyre/swordtail guppy/endler gene from way back when in his bloodline. Or maybe when you live in the same tank with someone, you may start looking alike

I heard if they do exist (Gourdtails), they are sterile like mules.
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Lol-"Gourdtails". I never had them interbreed or have "relations". Have one gup now that is suspiciously colored like my sole remaining pineapple sword. His tail has a slight sword growing off the lower part of his "fan", too, but could be a recessive lyre/swordtail guppy/endler gene from way back when in his bloodline. Or maybe when you live in the same tank with someone, you may start looking alike

I heard if they do exist (Gourdtails), they are sterile like mules.
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Gourdtail/Mule hybrids! Lol now we're just getting weird. I'd love to see a pic of said guppy though!

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Haha.....there are swordtail variations out there for guppies and endlers. Not sure how that came about though.

I've seen blue swordtails and black ones out there, but have never been able to get my hands on them. Wish I could have.....I've never replaced "Orange". That's what my daughter names him.
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There's a lot of cool swordtails out there. Here's a pic of one of my long finned lyre tails from a few years back don't mind the fake plants in the pic... this was from ages ago.
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Ooooh yeah! That is a nice swordtail! I had an orange wag, and he was cool as anything. And they are super hardy. My guy went through a lot because I was still in the learning stages. Poor guy.....but he made it through everything and was the king of the tank.
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Thanks What's cool about those guys is that even the females are pretty and have flowy fins. (that was a female in my pic) And totally agree about them being super hardy too. This poor girl went through my cycle and my bad fish keeping days.
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