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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-16-2013, 08:47 AM Thread Starter
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what happened to my Gourami :(

So I have my flame dwarf gourami for around 10 days. I have another neon blue in the tank, I have noticed that the blue one is much more aggressive that he eats everything I fed before the flame one could notice there is food. Unfortunately, I saw my flame dwarf gourami is having strange behavior today. I understand that they like hiding, but he just hide too much at the bottom, he also tends to bend down and seems like flip down on the bottom of the bed. I obviously see him is breathing, but he is just like freeze or just have super slow motion. They are both males. I dont really witness they fight, I also cant see any signs that they did fight, but I doubt about it. I afraid the flame one is sick so I am separating them. Even on the other container, the flame one still tends to lay down sometime, freeze but keep breathing.I feel very bad as I see it sometimes try to swim so hard but not for a long time.. I wonder if it is sick, or .......................... Please tell me what should I do asap, coz I also dont want him to stay in the bowl for such a long time, but in the other side I am worry if it gonna infect the whole tank..Photo is attached, the pic. shows when it is separated from its original tank.
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I can't offer any good advice, but I had 2 or 3 Gouramis die on me within a week or two of getting them from Petsmart. I think it's just poor stock.
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I also had the same thing happen with 2 of my pearl gourami they used to be so shy and they didn't used to eat a lot either, they did both survive and they are better, I think that gourami can be unexpected as i have had them just die on me randomly but al the other fish are fine, any way good luck and keep us updated

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First we need to know how big of tank you have, what are you water parameters, ect. Don't blame it on bad stock UNTIL you rule everything else out first.

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I've heard of something called gourami disease? Something similar to neon tetra disease? May be worth it to do some google research on it... but I agree, first water parameters should be brought into consideration.
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Sorry. This happened to my dwarf gourami too. Once it starts there's little you can do. I think these fish are just over bred and bad stock is too common.
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Re: what happened to my Gourami :(

Same here, i had one, it was doing great for two weeks, he started to act funny and then i did a water change, he got worse and died within a couple of hours. All my parameters were in order. My redtail shark in the same tank had no ill effects and i even dosed general cure. Nothing worked and he just died. My other fish and mystery snails are still great.
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Since someone mentioned it, here is the virus (not disease) in question:

Currently most of the Trichogaster lalius are arriving in pet shops with a virus (Dwarf Gourami Iridovirus (DGIV)) in them. This causes lethargic behaviour, darken of colour, tumours and death within a year. This virus is also believed to infect other fish like Swordtails and Mollys, possibly some Cichlids. There is no treatment for this virus.
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Since someone mentioned it, here is the virus (not disease) in question:

Currently most of the Trichogaster lalius are arriving in pet shops with a virus (Dwarf Gourami Iridovirus (DGIV)) in them. This causes lethargic behaviour, darken of colour, tumours and death within a year. This virus is also believed to infect other fish like Swordtails and Mollys, possibly some Cichlids. There is no treatment for this virus.
Many thought this was Myco for a long time, until just recently (relatively speaking) it wasn't identified correctly.
Something like >22% of all imports were tested positive I think 7yrs ago.
Rainbows are a huge risk as a carrier for Myco strains and it doesn't stop there.
Many fish stores have ZERO idea and I've stopped buying open market for this reason.

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Thanks everyone !

Thanks everyone who replied me. So I am still separating them, just that I bought a larger tank for the flame one. I found that he seems to swim better if he is in his own tank. Maybe they just cant live alone with each other. I will take some time to observe them. PS:: I took the water to do the analysis, the quality have no problem including the PH value and etc. the water doesnt get any sign of being infected.
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Gouramis can be very territorial, especially in a smaller tank. Sounds like he was being bullied by the Powder Blue Gourami, stressed and not being able to eat enough food. Keeping them separated should resolve the issue.

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