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Knowing a few discus breeders, I would say discus. As I'm sure you know many are sensitive a variety of variables, all have told me that even with all things constant some will still flip for no reason. So for experience and skill, I would go with the discus.

And don't get me wrong, I love Aros. But I know many (or not ...depending on who's reading this ) that have kept Asain Aros with no issues. Then again, maybe their lack of experience is made up for in husbandry and dedication as they have 5 grand invested in to a fish. (Note, I do not support owning these beautiful fish illegally!)
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Re: What is the pinnacle of freshwater fishkeeping?

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Knowing a few discus breeders, I would say discus. As I'm sure you know many are sensitive a variety of variables, all have told me that even with all things constant some will still flip for no reason. So for experience and skill, I would go with the discus.

And don't get me wrong, I love Aros. But I know many (or not ...depending on who's reading this ) that have kept Asain Aros with no issues. Then again, maybe their lack of experience is made up for in husbandry and dedication as they have 5 grand invested in to a fish. (Note, I do not support owning these beautiful fish illegally!)
ADG is such an awesome place. I haven't seen that tank in the picture, but their huge sw and Amazon setup are sweetest! Also the mini ADA tank they've got going that's crazy expensive.

5g? Must be the lower quality aros!


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Discus or Altum Angelfish in a well planted and scaped tank. They are just so majestic and striking.



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I'd have to agree, your photo makes a great case.
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Haha, 2-3 inchers from Toronto.
Makes sense now. Location and size are huge factors.

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A week ago i would have said Discus, and then I saw one of these at my LFS. They are asking $1200.00
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Well it is a really hard question!!!

It depends on the parameters on which you put on the word "pinnacle".

IF you are talking about difficult in keeping alive, then Altum Angels, Tropheus moorii- Bemba orange is one of my favorite color forms- (Tanganyikan Cichlids that are vegetarians who are notorious for a large part of your group just up and dieing for no reason!!!) Or as others have said any of the endangered wild fish, of whatever size, to get them breeding to keep them from going extinct!!!

OR if you mean a very beautiful fish who makes AWESOME displays: again Altum Angels, Discus, In a very large tank a breeding group of Tanganyikan Frontosa! They get pretty big at 16"+ and 5lbs.+, and the males get this huge golf ball size hump above their eyes, also they have BEAUTIFUL long flowing trailers on their fins that to me make them look like GIANT Glowing Blue and Black barred Butterflies!!! Also big groups of the small fish like Cardinals, Espi Rasboras, etc. make very stunning displays too! Some of the best comments I have ever gotten on any of my Planted Aquariums was when I had 25+ Cardinals in my first 55g!!! My Sisters Husband and his Brothers came to my Son's birthday party, granted they aren't aquarium keepers, and they couldn't get over the colors of the small FRESHWATER Fish! 1 of them had been Scuba diving in Fiji and said the Cards looked as good or better than any fish he saw there! Lastly a big group of Rainbows are hard to beat too! Their colors, shape, and activity level will keep you watching for hours! A 150g+ Display tank with Boesemani, Parkinsoni's, Turquoise, and Melanotaenia herbertaxelrodi "Yellow Rainbow" fish was the first real planted tank I ever saw, and it got me hooked on going planted and tearing down my African Cichlid tanks!

Lastly I think of the AWESOME Planted tanks themselves! Weather it be a Nature style or a Dutch style, a SHOW STOPPING, Heart Pounding display can take your breath away!!! Granted I have only seen a true few in person, but I have seen many pics of tanks, both in book and magazines or here on TPT, I truly aspire to be able to set one up one day when/IF my skill level gets to that point!!!

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Discus in a planted tank - the more plants and the higher tech...the more impressive. The picture above posted by Lowe is a good example. Discus, even wild ones, are not that difficult these days if you keep them in bare bottom tanks. It's easy to feed, easy to clean, and easy to establish stable water parameters. So for me, only discus in a well planted tank would be the 'pinnacle'. Having to balance between good parameters for the plants while feeding and providing good conditions for discus to thrive is the ultimate juggling act in my opinion.
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