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Kribs vs. Apistos vs. Angels

I am starting up a 55 gallon tank and I am looking for a good centerpiece fish. My water is hard and has high pH. I am wondering which of these three would be best. Right now I am leaning towards angels since they have been in the hobby the longest and I am hoping all the tank breeding would have made them more tolerant of hard water.

I am trying to stay away from livebearers, but besides that any and all suggestions/opinions are more than welcome.

Edit: pH 7.4

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when you say high Ph, how high are we talking ?

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Sorry about that, it is spot on at 7.4 with little fluctuation due to the hardness.
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Angelfish would be fine in that, so would rams. I know there are some apistos that really prefer softer water, some that are OK with harder.


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i would go with both a pair or trio of angels and a pair of rams. both will fit fine in a 55 rams tend to stay twards the bottom of the tank angels more mid to upper part. and you can go with bolivian or german blue rams, gold and powder blue are the newer types and tend to be more picky
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breeding pair of angels and Bolivian Rams.... Go together great! BR are much hardier than GBR and they can hold their own with the Angels. I think in truth, my large angels are afraid of my BRs

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I am starting up a 55 gallon tank and I am looking for a good centerpiece fish. My water is hard and has high pH. I am wondering which of these three would be best. Right now I am leaning towards angels since they have been in the hobby the longest and I am hoping all the tank breeding would have made them more tolerant of hard water.

I am trying to stay away from livebearers, but besides that any and all suggestions/opinions are more than welcome.

Edit: pH 7.4
Your water is not that hard. most tank bred fish will be fine in that water. its only if you get wild caught that you have to think about PH and even then fish adjust they just might not breed.

A breeding angle pair would be good in a 55 gal with a school of tetras and some cory cats. That would be a nice tank.

I love apistos they are my new thing. I keep a few in an 80gal tank that has lots of ground cover. Ground cover is key to keeping these little guys. They like the tank bottom to be full or plants and leaves. with rocks and wood. I might turn my 20 gal long into a breeding tank soon. These fish are always low in the tank they stay near the bottom and hide. They do not make good centerpiece fish. They are so pretty but not out enough.

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Kribs all the way. I can't say much about the apistos since I've never had any, but angels are BORING. The kribs are way more fun as entertainment as well as just eye candy.
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I like rams myself, but PB Zebra angels are awesome.
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i would go with a pair of gbr or electric blue rams ,. i have 2 pairs of gbr in my 55 and they are great and personable ,. i plan on getting rid of a few angels i have as they are boring
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I say start with Bolivians still .... everyone promotes GBRs soooo much, BR are vastly underrated IMO are the Angelfish of rams (even though they are not a ram, they are apart of the geo family). They have awesome personalities and are very social. More so than GBRs

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I'd say Kribs also, they are very hardy fish, they are ok with acidic or alkaline water and they are very interesting to watch , as most of the cichlids are. If you just setting up the tank now I would not recommend GBRs , they are too delicate , they need established tank with good and stable water parameters.

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Any of those would work with your water. Angels and Kribs would have the highest tolerance while the apisto would be the most sensative. Its all personal preference TBH. Of those you mention i like Angels. Hardy, graceful, and attractive. Kribs can be in the background and not always visible, but Angels are always front and center. They have great personality as well. You said you wanted "Centerpiece" fish. To me that means something that you will notice right away when you look at the tank, not a fish you need to search for (kribs and apistos). Don't misunderstand, Apistos and Kribs are both great fish and very attractive, just not something i think of when lookng for "Centerpiece" fish. This is my experience and opinion with 30+ years in the hobby.
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A breeding pair of kribs (and they WILL breed, even in that water), would be very cool. Kribs are so showy in their breeding behaviors that they just sorta outshine angels, rams, or apistos (all of which I've kept and bred). If you want a challenge, however, go for breeding Apistogramma aggassizi.

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I have a female kribensis, and she is a spunky, beautiful fish. The only thing with kribs is they tend to stay towards the bottom of the tank.
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