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Question 100 neon tetras in 2ft cube tank?

I plan to put 100 neon tetras in 1 2ft x 2ft x 2ft planted tank. The plants are mosses and Java fern and 2 branchy driftwood?

For 100 neon tetras is too many? If so, what is the right number?
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100 will be a bit overstocked but if you keep up with more frequent water changes or have some good fast growing plants, then you can get away with it. Ideally, because a 2ft cube is not a very long tank, I personally would keep no more then 50-60 neons in there.. rather, I would consider keeping 30-40 cardinals instead of neons

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100 will be a bit overstocked but if you keep up with more frequent water changes or have some good fast growing plants, then you can get away with it. Ideally, because a 2ft cube is not a very long tank, I personally would keep no more then 50-60 neons in there.. rather, I would consider keeping 30-40 cardinals instead of neons

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Much appreciated. I'm thinking to create a striking impression and therefore more neons will be nicer...
What is reason why you choose cardinals instead neons ?
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Well, 1: Cardinals have more colour then neons, 2: They grow a bit larger then neons so more stricking 3: I believe that cardinals are hardier then neons due to the plenty of inbreeding in neons that have reduced their immunity. Not sure about the quality of neons in singapore, but this is true in the UK.

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Well, 1: Cardinals have more colour then neons, 2: They grow a bit larger then neons so more stricking 3: I believe that cardinals are hardier then neons due to the plenty of inbreeding in neons that have reduced their immunity. Not sure about the quality of neons in singapore, but this is true in the UK.

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Thank you once again for your comments.
I think I would try Cardinal Tetras for my 2ft tank. Is it true that Cardinal needs lower PH and soft water so the fishes will stay stress-free, healthy and are not likely to get infrected and fall ill.
The price for both Cardinal and Neon is pretty reasonable in Singapore. For example : 100 piece/Cardinal Tetra (L) about ~ US$30 and 100 piece/Neon Tetra only ~ US$6...That is why I asked 100 pieces of tetras for a 2ft cube tank..
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You may need to acclimate Cardinals carefully, but they do fine in hard water (my tap water has 15+ dGH and 10+ dKH), although I do keep my pH down in the mid 6 range with CO2 injection.

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For example : 100 piece/Cardinal Tetra (L) about ~ US$30 and 100 piece/Neon Tetra only ~ US$6...That is why I asked 100 pieces of tetras for a 2ft cube tank..
Wait. 100 cardinals for 30 $ total?! $6 FOR 100 NEONS?!?!
Jesus Christ! Get 'em now!

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Wait. 100 cardinals for 30 $ total?! $6 FOR 100 NEONS?!?!
Jesus Christ! Get 'em now!

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You may need to acclimate Cardinals carefully, but they do fine in hard water (my tap water has 15+ dGH and 10+ dKH), although I do keep my pH down in the mid 6 range with CO2 injection.
Some said it's pretty hardy but some said otherwise. I was thinking to use substrate to help to lower the PH, to be on the safe side.
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Wait. 100 cardinals for 30 $ total?! $6 FOR 100 NEONS?!?!
Jesus Christ! Get 'em now!
I think you guys must be paying a lot for such a fish.. It's very common here and on sales all year round only conidtion is, you must buy 100 piece/bag.
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Yah. we pay like £2 for a cardinal and £1.5 for a neon. Dont know in the Americas.

Check the water from the source where the cardinals are comming from. if it is similar to yours, then you may not need to aclimatize them. I have had cardinals for years in moderatly hard alkaline water with no problems.

But remember, that with a high fish load as this, you will need to keep on top of maintainance.

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Yah. we pay like £2 for a cardinal and £1.5 for a neon. Dont know in the Americas.

Check the water from the source where the cardinals are comming from. if it is similar to yours, then you may not need to aclimatize them. I have had cardinals for years in moderatly hard alkaline water with no problems.

But remember, that with a high fish load as this, you will need to keep on top of maintainance.

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Wow, UK price is just so... expensive for this common fishes! unbelievable...

If not mistaken, most of tetras are local fish farm breeding and therefore water source can be quite similar.
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