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post #16 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-09-2017, 09:07 AM
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I'm currently building up a school of Ember tetras in my 75 gallon. Right now I think I'm up to 40. I will probably end up getting around 100

check out my video, you catch a few glimpses of the school in the first part of the video.



I also had a school of around 35 in my 20 gallon long tank a couple years ago


And Pedro Rosa had a very nice school in his "green and grey " scape, around 100 if I remember correctly.


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A shrimp breeding colony and a big flock of tetras is asking for the shrimp babies to be munched. You could keep a few shrimp in there as long as the tetras are well fed. But even 50 tetras is pushing it for this tank. moreso if you're going dirted substrate. I'd only stock about 25. Even though embers are small they're active little carnivores.
Oh, I understand that losing a few baby shrimp is always a possibility. Why does the dirt substrate contribute to the limiting of the fish stocking?

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Please post pics when you have your school built, I love embers! A 55 with a big ol' school of them sounds like wet dream (haha see what I did there because fish tanks are wet, I know I'm terrible) for me. Someday...

I have a small school in my super low-tech 20gal and I've caught them spawning several times - it's apparently not hard to get them to do so since I never did anything to try and encourage it!
Mine have never bothered or even acknowledged my shrimp, but every fish is different so you never know. Buuut I would bet that with a large, densely planted tank, you should be fine.

Hope these little tidbits of info helped and I apologize again for the terrible wet dream pun, lol
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I'm currently building up a school of Ember tetras in my 75 gallon. Right now I think I'm up to 40. I will probably end up getting around 100

And Pedro Rosa had a very nice school in his "green and grey " scape, around 100 if I remember correctly.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH3XnT4JuPE

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zunXTHGvSLA
I noticed that you were building up a decent size school! I love your tank! Your attention to detail in the set up and maintenance have resulted in an incredible tank! Watching your build on the 75 has got me looking at how to build a new system. The videos of the "green and grey" scape were some I found and watched all of while I was thinking about what to put into this 55! What an awesome tank!
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I've got probably 15-18 ember tetras in my 33 long (same footprint as the 55, just not as tall), along with other nano fish, a pair of electric blue rams, and a colony of RCS. Even in my tank with other fish, I think I could easily double that school and not have it look crowded. I think in your tank, with no other fish, 50-100 is very reasonable. They are great little fish! I have no doubt that they (and others) pick off some baby shrimp here and there, but my adult shrimp are out constantly and the embers ignore them.
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And Pedro Rosa had a very nice school in his "green and grey " scape, around 100 if I remember correctly.
Can you tell me what is the plant in that last video, growing up between the vry red one, that looks like green umbrella shape?

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do them 10 at a time like you are planning on and MAKE SURE YOU QUARANTINE THEM. Get them from a reliable source and quarantine each batch. you don't want a bad batch ruining all your stock.

for reference I have 40+ bloodfin tetras (quite a bit larger than embers) in my 75g and I could easily fit 20+ more. I would say you could do about 100 over time.
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Can you tell me what is the plant in that last video, growing up between the vry red one, that looks like green umbrella shape?


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Cool, thanks. I'd never seen it before. Too bad sounds like it won't do well w/out C02...

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Not to HiJak, but will Ember Tetras get along with Cardinal Tetras?

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Sure, why not. I would make sure to have about a dozen of each though for their sense of security.
As i said before, with many tetras all you need is an extra 10 gal tank to breed your own school.

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Can you tell me what is the plant in that last video, growing up between the vry red one, that looks like green umbrella shape?
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Oh, I understand that losing a few baby shrimp is always a possibility. Why does the dirt substrate contribute to the limiting of the fish stocking?
Well with the Shrimp and the extra bio load of the dirt's organic breakdown products, I feel it would keep your algae levels and Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrates to a minimum. Shrimp really need clean water.

I also like Dutch style stockings of fish, and they'll school in a smaller group, which will allow them to move as a 'unit' around the tank.
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Well with the Shrimp and the extra bio load of the dirt's organic breakdown products, I feel it would keep your algae levels and Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrates to a minimum. Shrimp really need clean water.

I also like Dutch style stockings of fish, and they'll school in a smaller group, which will allow them to move as a 'unit' around the tank.


Ok, I see what you mean. My soil is a couple years old at this point. Thankfully I don't seem to get much change in water quality due to it leeching. I'm sure when it was new it contributed greatly to the problem, as well as the explosive plant growth. I didn't keep too many fish in the tank then, just a couple Clown Plecos & ~6 Black Neon Tetras.

While I have to admit I'm not too familiar with the Dutch style, both of stocking and aquascaping(other than it's pretty), I've never been one to heavily stock things. Once the shrimp colony is fully rolling we'll see how large of a school I'm willing to keep. Heavy stock levels require a super close watch on everything. As a full time college student(returning in my 30s) I approach school like a job, during the semester it isn't unusual for me to spend 40-60+ hours per week in the library studying outside of my 18 hours of classes/office hours. Needless to say, I'm not home much & when I am I mostly eat, sleep, & shower. Haha. Doesn't leave much time to constantly monitor my tanks.


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One of the rules of Dutch scapes is not having schools smaller than 11 or 12 fish, or you incur penalties....
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