hey guys thanks for all your help i signed up sfbaaps finally you were right i needed an actual name for my sn. anyways, i found someone who was willing to help me out and hook me up with some dwarf sag. but surprisingly i looked at my tank today and discovered that two of my plants already have runners. a small little tiny ass piece of val and the sag i bought. the sag i bought had two runners from its original clipping and i guess one of them grew because its doubled in size. so im pretty excited to see that. and its only been a week ish. so yea hopefully the extra sag will help my tank look more full because its pretty bare right now. i just have the sag and two small val stems. and java moss.