Thanks guys, it's one of those things that looked simple, and probably should have been but turned out to be a fair bit of work lol
looks nice second time around!
now if the shrimp dont work out right away, dont give up. give to bowl a month and then try adding shrimp again.
Thanks Newman, as a veteran of these I will definately keep what what you say in mind.
I'm also experimenting with a cube in natural light, but it's not working outtoo well, will let the bowl grow in a bit more and see what does well in the small environment and then take cuttings from the main tank.