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post #16 of 63 (permalink) Old 01-30-2007, 04:34 PM
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that would not work for DIY haha. xD I should go pressurized but I am unwilling to spend the money when my DIY works fine on 2/3 of my large tanks.
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post #17 of 63 (permalink) Old 01-30-2007, 04:49 PM
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you could use 2 soda bottles connected together also

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This is no doubt a great invention. Regards, jC.
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but what do you do at night when you don't need co2 injection? you can't turn off your filter.
I use a PH controller with a selenoid.

The material I used is also a gravel cleaner. You may use anything with similar shape and that is hard plastic (cola bottles won't work, needs something harder).

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Nice reactor, but someone else already had the idea.

Seen here : http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...r-reactor.html
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Nice reactor, but someone else already had the idea.

Seen here : http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...r-reactor.html

Hi jay 1st.
Do you know that when I saw this thread I immediately thought of you and wanted mention it in a post that someone else has a very similar design but believe it or not I just couldn't remember your username and/or the thread.
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Do you know that when I saw this thread I immediately thought of you and wanted mention it in a post that someone else has a very similar design but believe it or not I just couldn't remember your username and/or the thread.
No worries, I'm not a big "poster" in this forum !
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That is not exactly the same thing.Regards, JC.
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Nice reactor, but someone else already had the idea.

Seen here : http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...r-reactor.html
The vortex reactor is totally different than that of yours. There is a huge difference. I suggest that you reanalyse the pictures.

In my vortex reactor, the CO2 enters the tube from the top and accumulates on the top part of the reactor. Then the 'CO2 gas' creates /becomes a vortex with the driving force of the H2O coming up the filter and thus dissoves totally (since the friction is much higher).

Your reactor's working principle is a copy of certain protein skimmers. The CO2 breaks up inside the filter pipe and enters the reactor. In this model the CO2 does not create a vortex. They are sucked in by the powerhead and then spreyed inside the reactor.

I hope that now you realize that neither the idea nor the reactor is the same.
Perhaps in the future you will be more careful before making such comments.



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Does this mean you're not getting flow in you tank from you filter? Of course a simple powerhead would solve that problem but JW.
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yasmut, no need to get angry... all he did was link a page... unless the words "but someone else already had the idea." you thought were meant to be mean. I do not think they are that dissimilar. I dont think the co2 entering the top or near the top on the side really makes much difference. And jays design does use a vortex. The main difference in my opinion? jays has the capability to multipass through over and over with the extra pump. Even if not needed, the extra pump becomes a booster to enhance the vortex. With the added pump might be better when your main pump/filter isnt strong enough for a vortex by itself. So both designs use a vortex, with water and co2 comming in the top of the vortex, the current creating the vortex enters near the top and along the side of the reactor, and water with fully dissolved co2 exits the bottom. Other than that the differences are small.

Jay - nice avatar... here is my current avatar on goldfishparadise forums..

And also this one at fastmhz.com forum...

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I change water enterance to fit into the external filter. This way it works more powerfull. it is conected to Ehiem 2217.
Dissolves 2500 bubbles per minute.



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post #28 of 63 (permalink) Old 02-12-2007, 09:38 PM
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No frustration here !

As Crazy Loaches said, there is almost no difference:

If I fill my reactor with 3" of CO2 the same thing as yours will happen, but if I start the circulating pump the CO2 will dissolve very very fast.
Having the CO2 injected on the inlet from the pump helps creating small bubbles as well.

My initial intent was NOT to have this big pocket of CO2. I am using a PH controller, so when it shuts close the solenoid the PH will not drop, as there is no more CO2 to dissolve.
If I was using the "massive CO2 pocket" it will keep dropping to a lower value than the one I choosed.

I am not trying to get a big vortex, just a tiny small one is enough (u can see it in the vids) to reach the point where all of the gas is 100% dissolved, no losses at all.
Even if some of it is not dissolved at first pass, the gas is lighter than H2O so it stays in the center and it's sucked by the recirc-pump and "chewed" by the impeller (I also thought about using a needle-wheel ) and reinjected in the circuit.

Not a single bubble is going in the display tank ( even if my tank is ugly).

No mis-understanding here, all DIY is good to share, especially good ideas !

BTW, I've been quite often to Turkey 2 years ago.......

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I use this one as well on an other forum:

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yasmut; looking at your last photo, it occurred to me you could make that out of nothing more than one small plastic soda bottle hung upside down with 2 holes and pipes glued on for the water and Co2 inlets, then leave the bottle cap off at the bottom neck. ginger ale is sold here in green plastic.
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spynet soda bottle is too brittle IMO. Regards, jC.
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