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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-14-2013, 08:34 PM Thread Starter
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Is it safe to use solenoid w/ DIY CO2?

I have been injecting some CO2 by using a 2l bottle (Coca-Cola) and the famous yeast-mix, but I doubt I want to let it run 24/7 any longer.

How safe is it to upgrade my setup w/ a solenoid?

I guess the bottle will survive (pressure), but wouldn't it spit the over-night pressure in a couple of minutes as soon as solenoid opens?
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-14-2013, 08:51 PM
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Unless you use some sort of steel bottle I doubt it would survive the pressure. In other words, no, it is not safe to use a solenoid to close off your DIY contraption.

However, you could use the solenoid on a T: at night it opens, the CO2 goes into the atmosphere, when closed during the day it goes into the tank.
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Oh, well .. I guess I should be starting to save up for a real Co2 tank.
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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-16-2013, 08:57 PM
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I'm saving for a real tank right now.

I just made a diy CO2 for my tank the other day. After doing research I went with the Hagen Elite (diy) mod for the diffuser. I think it works great because the diffuser can be put on a timer. When it's turned off, it releases huge bubbles that don't dissolve in the water. From what I have gathered, that is the best we can for the fish using DIY.

Now I'm browsing looking for the right CO2 regulator. If you can find the Elite Mini filter, give it a shot. Great diffuser for $10.
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You could use a 3 way solenoid that vents after the lights go out. Seems like a waist of money for diy co2 though.

What would Honey Badger do?
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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-17-2013, 12:39 AM
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Just use air bubble valve to control CO2 flow.
Something like this:
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post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-21-2013, 08:16 AM
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I'm going to go ahead and disagree with everyone and say yeah you can run a solenoid on a DIY yeast co2 system. I know I'm going to get my head knocked off but here it goes.

Soda bottles will hold all the pressure thar a yeast culture can produce in 24 hours. They have a burst rating that is surprisingly high! The weak point in the chain is your tubing and its connection through the soda bottle lids. You will get a failure there long before you will get a failure in your bottle. The key to turning off the flow on a yeast bottle us to ensure that you have a relief of some kind so you don't wind up with fizzy yeasty water in your ceiling should you get too much pressure and blow a hose.

I got lucky and found a bad check valve that wont allow any gas to escape below about 30 psi. I have a t in my tubing that connects to a series of valve that I use fir coarse and fine flow control. I use the coarse valve to turn off the co2 at night and the reduced flow keeps a nice bit of back pressure during the day. (The yeast culture seems to be more stable with a bit of pressure on it.)

Now... i have done a lot of testing of my components and culture to get a system that works well for me. I have good control over the amount of co2 going into my tank and can go for days without touching it. However, if you arent willing to spend the time pressure testing your system and plying with the ingredients in your yeast mix then i wouldn't recommended trying. Actually i wouldn't recommend it anyway. Its a bit of work and uf you dont have the tools to set ut up right you will be cleaning the ceiling.

Besides, putting a solenoid on a yeast culture co2 syatem is a bit like putting a blown 350 in a ford pinto, you can do it but why yhe hell should you?! There are much better candidates and if you are going to spend the money you may as well go ahead and spend yhe rest to do it right. I had two months recovering from surgery to piddle around with my tank and all the materials at my disposal so it cost me nothing in time or money.

But to say it can't be done simply isn't true, its just not worth the effort.

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can't, some reasons:
1. pressure rating of the container.
2. pressure fluctuate because once cut off flow, co2 will increase at night and pressure rise, co2 injection will not be steady.

there is a possible way, but a 3 way solenoid and a check/release valve that can set the cracking pressure, are expensive!

- if use 3 way solenoid, need to reverse inlet/outlet port and add a check valve on exhaust port as release valve. once the solenoid power off, the outlet(as inlet) to release port open, the co2 in the bottle will vent through the release valve if the pressure reach a certain point(check valve cracking pressure).
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