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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-26-2010, 06:24 PM Thread Starter
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Garden Mesh Netting?

I went to Ace Hardware to look for polypropolyene (sp?) mesh to make a lid to place on top of my aquarium and underneath a mounted light fixture. They didn't have that but they do have rolls of some sorta hard mesh used for gardening. $20 something per roll.

Wondering if something like that would be fine for placing under a mounted light fixture to keep fish from jumping out. I couldn't put a frame around it as I could the polypropolyene but I could lay a cut out piece over the tank and I will if I get some replies indicated that it would be fine.
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20 dollars a roll? It better be made by ada if it's that expensive.

Check out window screening. Those things only cost like 3 dollars for large roll at walmart. And then you can also DIY a frame for it using window screening frame, or duct/electrical tape. It's usually by the arts and crafts department or home improvement section.

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20 dollars a roll? It better be made by ada if it's that expensive.

Check out window screening. Those things only cost like 3 dollars for large roll at walmart. And then you can also DIY a frame for it using window screening frame, or duct/electrical tape. It's usually by the arts and crafts department or home improvement section.
Interesting. I wasn't sure I could use window screen. I believe this is bird screen or something, I'd have to go back to Ace and look to be sure. I'll probably try your idea at this time. I need something. I know alot of people prefer just straight open tops and I could do that but I'm too paranoid about losing fish, and shrimps.
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Bird netting won't contain shrimp.
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Bird netting won't contain shrimp.
Hey, thanks for the warning. I wonder how small the square openings would need to be to contain ghost shrimp. I only keep ghost atm.
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Garden Mesh Netting?

Be careful with the window screen it will reduce the light that gets to your plants by quite a bit. Best top to use is a piece of glass unless you want to really reduce your lighting.

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Be careful with the window screen it will reduce the light that gets to your plants by quite a bit. Best top to use is a piece of glass unless you want to really reduce your lighting.
That's what I thought. I used to use glass canopies but then I read that not only does it block a bit of light but if you have stronger light then it causes heating inside the tank so therefore some openess to it allows the light to penetrate the substrate while at the same time not trapping the excess heat in? Something like that lol.

Gonna hit a few hardware stores tomorrow and I'll figure out something. I'm already decided against eggcrate. I just know I'm not going to have a completely open top but I also don't want a screen that blocks out too much light to my plants.
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Each layer of fiberglass "insect screening" for windows blocks about 40% of the light. In effect it reduces high light to medium light, and medium light to low light.

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It's called hardware cloth and is made by Garden Zone. It was $14 per huge long roll.

This is what it is and I was considering the 1/4" one:

http://garden-zone.com/cloth.html

I sure hope someone comments.
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that is... really expensive.

I bought my roll at lowes for 6 bucks. With the metal window frame and the rubber spline, it came out to be about 10 bucks total.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_15542-15369-...en%26page%3D11

that's what I used

I used the insect one as I wanted to reduce my lighting. The holes are about 1.5mm in size

Speedie408 used the 1/4inch netting and it doesn't block that much light, only about 5%. It won't be able to keep the smaller ones from jumping though.
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Is it really possible for a fish to aim at a quarter inch hole, hit it, and escape the tank that way? It sounds unlikely, but I suppose some fish are really smart

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Is it really possible for a fish to aim at a quarter inch hole, hit it, and escape the tank that way? It sounds unlikely, but I suppose some fish are really smart
I LOL'd at that remark Hoppy

Like Iwannagofast was saying, you can use the stuff I'm using which is black polyurethane 1/4" netting. I got a whole lot still available for $1/square foot. Here's a picture of my setup:


See how high my light is? I have very minimal lighting issues. As already mentioned, smaller fish can use echo detection to jump out these 1/4" squares so you may be better off with something a bit smaller if smaller fish are what you're trying to keep inside. :P
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"That's right, but they never attack the same place twice. They were testing the fences for weaknesses, systematically. They remember."
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"That's right, but they never attack the same place twice. They were testing the fences for weaknesses, systematically. They remember."
points if you know where that's from
LOL I second JP.
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