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post #721 of 2409 (permalink) Old 12-16-2010, 03:19 AM
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Thanks for such a great thread! I can't believe I read almost all 48 pages of it! I ordered most of my supplies now with the exception of things I need to buy from Home Depot.

I just had one question - I see a lot of mention of teflon tape. Has anyone tried using Pipe Dope instead? I was thinking of doing that instead of Teflon tape but wanted to see if anyone else has tried it before
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Thanks for such a great thread! I can't believe I read almost all 48 pages of it! I ordered most of my supplies now with the exception of things I need to buy from Home Depot.

I just had one question - I see a lot of mention of teflon tape. Has anyone tried using Pipe Dope instead? I was thinking of doing that instead of Teflon tape but wanted to see if anyone else has tried it before
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It's fairly easy to make, not difficult at all. Pipe Dope can get a messy. Try it, Teflon alone will be enough. This wasn't a mastered made rig, alot of people are having problem with different needle valves along with the homedepot valve also. Some works, some doesn't. People switched over to the Swagelok Needle Valve and a few couplers from homedepot. You might want to go back a 2-6 pages and find the part number listed and go that route. Its' just a couple bucks more for it.

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It's fairly easy to make, not difficult at all. Pipe Dope can get a messy. Try it, Teflon alone will be enough. This wasn't a mastered made rig, alot of people are having problem with different needle valves along with the homedepot valve also. Some works, some doesn't. People switched over to the Swagelok Needle Valve and a few couplers from homedepot. You might want to go back a 2-6 pages and find the part number listed and go that route. Its' just a couple bucks more for it.
Oh yeah I went with the Swagelok. So far I have acquired everything but the stuff I needed at HD, which I will get later. I don't even have my 55 gal that this will go into yet! heh

Whitey Swagelok 1/8" Brass Needle Valve B-OVM2-BKB $8.99 + S&H (eBay)
(2) Pure Energy 20oz CO2 Tank $15.15 x 2 (Amazon)
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Paintball Micro Gauge 0-1200 psi $3.99 + S&H (iisports.com)
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Is there a way to add a SOLENOID onto this ?!?!

I LOVE MY DIY PAINTBALL CO2 but I don't need the CO2 on all day :O
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yes but that will cost a lot more, to have a solenoid you need a regulator most solenoid are only going to hold back around 150psi if not less of pressure, that is why you need a regulator to adjust it down then you can put the solenoid and needle valve, but for the cost of a regulator and solenoid you might as well just go full 5lb co2 instead.
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yes but that will cost a lot more, to have a solenoid you need a regulator most solenoid are only going to hold back around 150psi if not less of pressure, that is why you need a regulator to adjust it down then you can put the solenoid and needle valve, but for the cost of a regulator and solenoid you might as well just go full 5lb co2 instead.
Why can't you put the solenoid after the NV? I would guess the psi is less the 30 after that point.

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Is there a way to add a SOLENOID onto this ?!?!

I LOVE MY DIY PAINTBALL CO2 but I don't need the CO2 on all day :O
I plan to be using the Hagen Elite filter/diffuser method, and will just turn it off together with the lights, just to be on the safe side. That will cause large bubbles of CO2 to simply float up to the surface without being absorbed by the water. I guess you're still "wasting" CO2 but it should still end up way cheaper than any professional CO2 setup.
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yes but that will cost a lot more, to have a solenoid you need a regulator most solenoid are only going to hold back around 150psi if not less of pressure, that is why you need a regulator to adjust it down then you can put the solenoid and needle valve, but for the cost of a regulator and solenoid you might as well just go full 5lb co2 instead.
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Why can't you put the solenoid after the NV? I would guess the psi is less the 30 after that point.
Antbug, are you sure it is less than 30 psi? when the solenoid is closed, there is theoretically no flow and you have a closed vessel. This is assuming you did not shut the NV. Therefore, pressure in a closed vessel should be the same everywhere. correct?
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Now that I think more about it...... After the solenoid closes the pressure would build up, correct? If this is correct, how does the ADA EI valve work then?

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I am not sure coz I am not familar with the full blown co2 setup. I am just looking at things based on hydraulic/pneumatics stand point.

just my 2 cents. There are two possibility that the ADA EL valve work.
1. It can take high pressure
2. Pressure have to be stepped down before entering the ADA EL valve.

my guess is that it needs to couple with a regulator as suggested by genEus.

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Are these the right stuff?

Tank:
http://www.redcellpaintball.com/pure...tank-20oz.html

On/Off:
Can't find one on the website? Where to get?

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http://www.redcellpaintball.com/dye-...-1500-psi.html
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Are these the right stuff?

Tank:
http://www.redcellpaintball.com/pure...tank-20oz.html

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Can't find one on the website? Where to get?

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http://www.redcellpaintball.com/dye-...-1500-psi.html
Amazon has a 20oz paintball tank for 15 shipped. Ebay has tons of on/off asa's.
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Amazon has a 20oz paintball tank for 15 shipped. Ebay has tons of on/off asa's.
Ok, got the amazon, but on Ebay I can't tell if those On/off things have one hole or two.
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Eden ~ These have the 2 holes. I have 2 of them and they work great!

http://www.amazon.com/32-Degrees-Qui.../dp/B001MY331Q

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Eden- You should get the gauge from the same seller that antbug linked.
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