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post #2116 of 2410 (permalink) Old 02-21-2013, 10:11 AM
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In the very slim chance of the cylinders not working, I think those guys just won't take the risk filling your tank. Look at it from their view, they have a line up of people wanting them to fill Co2 tanks, they won't put their license on the line for your cylinder.

You can just buy a new 12 oz or larger, see how it works and get some experience from it. Then move on to a bigger tank, it's the most logical thing to to do.

And yes, I am ashamed to reveal how muchI laughed.

If you still got questions, post them here, I'll give it a go.
I'm still gonna get the 20-24oz no doubt about that I only have a 20gal and a 5.5 right now but when I do my 55+ or a 90gal ill be looking to get the 5lb tank to run my 20 an 55+.

The questions I had were on the regulator which I think is the hardest part of tha whole system if u never messed with one before but anyway I posted earlier question about this DIY one and got no answer like always but anyway I just went an bought what I felt was a good one then got a solieniod for about $20 of eBay of what I thought was a good one too anything else ill holla tho! Thanks
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In the very slim chance of the cylinders not working, I think those guys just won't take the risk filling your tank. Look at it from their view, they have a line up of people wanting them to fill Co2 tanks, they won't put their license on the line for your cylinder.

You can just buy a new 12 oz or larger, see how it works and get some experience from it. Then move on to a bigger tank, it's the most logical thing to to do.

And yes, I am ashamed to reveal how muchI laughed.

If you still got questions, post them here, I'll give it a go.
For the needle valve should I go with a 1/8" or 1/4" hose fittings?
Or does the size of the aquarium determain the size hose fittings?
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^ You should get the same size tubing they have in the pet store, just in case you need to grab some. You can also get it at Home depot or other hardware stores.

I personally really like the polyurethane tubing but some might disagree and say it leaks Co2. Not going get into that crazy argument. The size is 1/8" ID x 1/4" OD with a 1/16" but to make sure, just look at it. I was in a welding store and I told them 1/8 and they mix up the size thinking it was OD, but you know, they're cool and just re-cut the new one.

If you like glossy, colour, and being stiff, I suggest Polyurethane. Glossy shinny red, uhm uhm uhm.



Forgot to mention, you might want to add a check valve that leads into the tank. You can use the common tubing which bends and twist with no effort. I got black to hide it behind the filter.



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For the needle valve should I go with a 1/8" or 1/4" hose fittings?
Or does the size of the aquarium determain the size hose fittings?
Either is fine. What you decide will determine what tubing you will have to buy.

If you already have a particular sized tubing, then you may want your needle valve to match up so that you don't have to buy more tubing.

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^ You should get the same size tubing they have in the pet store, just in case you need to grab some. You can also get it at Home depot or other hardware stores.

I personally really like the polyurethane tubing but some might disagree and say it leaks Co2. Not going get into that crazy argument. The size is 1/8" ID x 1/4" OD with a 1/16" but to make sure, just look at it. I was in a welding store and I told them 1/8 and they mix up the size thinking it was OD, but you know, they're cool and just re-cut the new one.

If you like glossy, colour, and being stiff, I suggest Polyurethane. Glossy shinny red, uhm uhm uhm.





Forgot to mention, you might want to add a check valve that leads into the tank. You can use the common tubing which bends and twist with no effort. I got black to hide it behind the filter.
Wow that is some set up nice, thanks.
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Either is fine. What you decide will determine what tubing you will have to buy.

If you already have a particular sized tubing, then you may want your needle valve to match up so that you don't have to buy more tubing.
Thank u sir for chiming in there I found a nice needle valve for about $30 that's not to bad almost in my now!
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What needle valve did you end up getting?



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What needle valve did you end up getting?
I didn't get it yet but I'm considering one of these.

This one for a DIY set up.
http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9fccb532.jpg

This was the first one I came across.
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I'm leaning more towards one of these.
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The last two might be good, depending on their Cv values.

They use tube adapters though, so you may want NPT adapters if you do not want to run the needle valve inline.

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The last two might be good, depending on their Cv values.

They use tube adapters though, so you may want NPT adapters if you do not want to run the needle valve inline.
What's a good range to be in? I have two I'm bidding on that are 0.35?

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What's a good range to be in? I have two I'm bidding on that are 0.35?
That is very high; a good number to aim around is 0.03.

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That is very high; a good number to aim around is 0.03.
Would something like 0.04 be to high also?
I found one that said 0.04-0.16 does that mean its adjustable?
Would it be better to get a valve with female hook ups instead of the compression fittings like the ones in the pics I posted?

Thanks for the help I thought a regulator came with this part an all I had to add was the solieniod, good part is I'm a lot closer to being done or to just needing a full tank.
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Would something like 0.04 be to high also?
I found one that said 0.04-0.16 does that mean its adjustable?
Would it be better to get a valve with female hook ups instead of the compression fittings like the ones in the pics I posted?

Thanks for the help I thought a regulator came with this part an all I had to add was the solieniod, good part is I'm a lot closer to being done or to just needing a full tank.
For smaller aquariums, that Cv range may not be suitable, as it may allow too much gas to flow.

You can get whatever fittings you want; some people like compression fittings, while others like NPT fittings. It depends on what you are using them for, there is no "better" option.

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For smaller aquariums, that Cv range may not be suitable, as it may allow too much gas to flow.

You can get whatever fittings you want; some people like compression fittings, while others like NPT fittings. It depends on what you are using them for, there is no "better" option.
Now the Cv, would a 55+ gal be concidered to small for that level of Cv? ( 0.04+)

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This blows, no pun intended. I just gave away my two CO2 Paintball tanks I had a few months ago LOL.
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