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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 12-07-2013, 06:32 AM Thread Starter
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Some new axolotls

I recently got 3 new leucistic axolotls and wanted to share
theyre so adorable! lol






These guys are in a 20 long bare bottom for now
Im working on getting another 20 long and setting it up with Dwarf Hair Grass and java ferns
Any other suggestions for plants that will thrive in 66F or colder water?
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I have a single axolotl in a 20 long, sand as the substrate and i just have a bunch of floating java fern and alot of floaters, there is a Ruben sword in there that is planted and its been alive but not growing for quite awhile now. but it looks cool with the floating java fern
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Vallisneria nearly took over my unheated tank a while back. Hornwort grows super fast in that temp, too. And anubias nana put out a new leaf every week in there without ferts or CO2, just root tabs and fish.

Your fish are cute!
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right now ive got some dwarf hair grass ive started in another small 8 gallon tank
I am using the dry start method with that and hope to have it starting to carpet and cover the bottom in a month or 2
if this works out I will transplant it to an empty tank for my lotls and will dry start there and get it covered before i put water and lotls in there
hopefully I can get this stuff to grow

thanks for the other suggestions, I will look into those plant as well!!
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They might tear it up, i know my axolotl moves the sand around in there, not intentionally but over time he has made like sand dunes in his tank from swimming back and forth
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I recently got 3 new leucistic axolotls and wanted to share
theyre so adorable! lol






These guys are in a 20 long bare bottom for now
Im working on getting another 20 long and setting it up with Dwarf Hair Grass and java ferns
Any other suggestions for plants that will thrive in 66F or colder water?
They are cute, They do not morph into salamanders?
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They are cute, They do not morph into salamanders?
Not these ones, I believe those are tiger salamanders. The natural colored ones
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They are cute, They do not morph into salamanders?
no these are neotenic, they do not morph as they lack the hormones
They reach sexual maturity and adulthood in their larval form
they never leave their teenager stage lol
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Very pretty! Love the contrast of the black eyes in the pale face. Are these things very friendly? As in, is it possible to train one to come and eat out of your hand? That would be impressive.
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Very pretty! Love the contrast of the black eyes in the pale face. Are these things very friendly? As in, is it possible to train one to come and eat out of your hand? That would be impressive.
oh yes, they will greedily eat from your hand
I have a large wild type that eats earthworms from my hand sometimes
its usually easier to just drop the worm in there though
They can be pretty cool, some owners do pet them and interact with them regularly
They do still have a slimecoat like fish so its best to minimize the touching

They can also dry out pretty fast so they need to stay in water although they do have lungs so can breathe out of water

Mine recognizes me as the guy who bring him food so he pops up and follows me along the tank whenever i walk by hehehe

here is my 14 month old wild type, his gills got caught in the filter intake so theyre a bit frazzled, they will grow back though and ive covered the intake in filter sponge :p
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no these are neotenic, they do not morph as they lack the hormones
They reach sexual maturity and adulthood in their larval form
they never leave their teenager stage lol


Okay thanks . I have never actually seen those , other than pictures .
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Not these ones, I believe those are tiger salamanders. The natural colored ones
Thanks ,I have only seen the types that morph but they were called waterdogs as have never seen axolotls . Thought maybe those were albino versions of them.
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Thanks ,I have only seen the types that morph but they were called waterdogs as have never seen axolotls . Thought maybe those were albino versions of them.
They are called mud puppy's to I believe the natural colored ones, and depending they spend a couple years in this larvae stage and then morph to salamanders. But there really isn't a lot of information on them. I know the pink ones cans regenerate. So I'd assume so do the others. I'm not looking to chop a leg off to find out though
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They are called mud puppy's to I believe the natural colored ones, and depending they spend a couple years in this larvae stage and then morph to salamanders. But there really isn't a lot of information on them. I know the pink ones cans regenerate. So I'd assume so do the others. I'm not looking to chop a leg off to find out though
Axolotls are sometimes called mud puppies but this is a mistake
Mud puppies are tiger salamander larvae

What we have here is an axolotl, they do not morph as they lack the hormones necessary to do so
All axolotls and in fact all salamander larvae have the ability to regenerate lost body parts and in fact can regenerate lost organs!!

An axolotl may morph but it is extremely rare and usually due to very poor water conditions
They will most likely die before they morph
There are a few keepers in Australia that have managed to artificially morph them by injecting them with the correct hormones, but this is very rare and I only know of one scientist that has done it so far

What youre probably thinking of is the axolotls closest cousin the Tiger Salamander, those will morph and can take a couple years to do so

Axolotls come in a wide variety of colors
the most common is Wild Type, mostly green with dark spots
Next most common are leucistic and albino followed by melanoid, copper, and finally Chimera

Wild type:

Leucistic:

Albino:

Gold Albino:

Melanoid:

Copper:

Chimera:
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They are called mud puppy's to I believe the natural colored ones, and depending they spend a couple years in this larvae stage and then morph to salamanders. But there really isn't a lot of information on them. I know the pink ones cans regenerate. So I'd assume so do the others. I'm not looking to chop a leg off to find out though
Take a look/see:
http://www.axolotl.org/

Also Mudpuppies (Necturus) are not Tiger salamader (Ambystoma tigrinum) larvae FYI. Axolotls (Ambystoma mavortium) are a closely related specie, but they are not the same. Occasionally, Tiger salamaders will experience neoteny but this is the exception to the rule.. interestingly enough axolotls can be artificially induced to leave neoteny.

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