….Shiny….. Im calling him today to finalize. I made mention in the Illinois Forum to see if anyone local wanted any. Steve said that he prefers to order in quantity, but would order regardless if I was serious. I got to say, I was impressed with his place. He is running Rays, Monster Rays, on a lot of tanks and they really make a difference in the appearance of fish. I am in the process of doing a 180 African build and will seriously consider the Monsters.