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How much water movement is created at the other end of the tank, especially since this filter is designed to handle high GPH flow. This information would be particularly helpful for those that keep high sensitive shrimp that aren't tolerant of strong water movement; this will also be helpful in plant/filter placement in a tank as certain plants don't like strong currents/water movement. If a plant receives too much movement it will stunt their growth or force them to grow in a direction that is unnatural.

I am also interested to see how much surface agitation this filter produces - too much surface agitation results in higher O2 exchange but more CO2 will be lost; will we need to increase the CO2 to compensate for the loss or higher gas exchange rate?

If you're spending $120+ on a single lily pipe wouldn't you like to know as much information about it - effectiveness/functionality/productiveness - especially when there are cheaper alternatives (albeit different design) widely available elsewhere?
I get your point but I guess I saw the videos and they show how the pipe works and how much agitation and all that it makes (barely any).

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yeah, it barely agitates the water, not as much as the poppy pipe.

I don't have my mini-m set up yet, it's still in dry start, so i'll hook it up to my 60H, so you'll get a general idea
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yeah, it barely agitates the water, not as much as the poppy pipe.

I don't have my mini-m set up yet, it's still in dry start, so i'll hook it up to my 60H, so you'll get a general idea
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I went to AFA a couple weeks ago and got to see the lily pipe in action. It is definitly an interesting piece. The flow, if you pick it up out of the water and watch it spin out (which they allowed me to do!!!) is actually pretty cool. Would I pay that much for lily pipes? No, I don't think it is worth it IMO, unless you have very secific need like people have mentioned earlier.
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alrite, here's a quick video I shot

http://youtu.be/6IYKgiTkvhc

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Interesting. Looks like the Spin pipe is specifically designed to be used with a much higher flow filter (ES-300? No idea on the lph/gph specs though) than what we're used to seeing on Mini tanks and the like, particularly the Eheim 2211~2217. The flow distribution should allow for much more efficient filtration of the aquarium water volume without giving too much concentrated flow. Well played, ADA. Perhaps we'll see some setups with Eheim 2215/2217s on Mini M tanks.
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Ok so I stopped by AFA again and got a shot of the spin in action on the mini m. They are running a 2232 on the tank with a hydor inline heater.

http://youtu.be/hBHBM5XuM-M
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alrite, here's a quick video I shot

http://youtu.be/6IYKgiTkvhc

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thank you for your video! Im kinda disappointed that there is no knob for a suction cup to hold the pipe! For a $100+ lily pipe it should feature that! Nice pipe. thanks again
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thank you for your video! Im kinda disappointed that there is no knob for a suction cup to hold the pipe! For a $100+ lily pipe it should feature that! Nice pipe. thanks again
Why? The point of it is to be less intrusive. The Mini P-1/V-1 pipes do the same thing. All you have to do is make sure the filter tubing is secured (easily done with clamps or clothespins without hindering filter flow) and you're good to go. Clamps and such make it easier to adjust and makes the tubing look straight as well.
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Yep, I actually like the "bracketless" pipe design. Sometimes suction cups fail.
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