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because as ammonia is produced through waste, it drives teh pH down, rendering the ammonia non-toxic. There is no exchange of gas. When you allow the exchange of gas, it allows the pH to stay stable (in my case moderately hard) and allows teh ammonia to become exponentially more toxic.

Does this have an impact, in your opinion, on how one should acclimate a fish shipped this way? I've read of this before but never really considered if it takes "Drip acclimation" out of the equation.

I drip-acclimated the last load of fish from you with no problems : ) But wondering if you instead recommend a more drastic, "take out 25% of the water and replace with tank water, repeat" approach instead which I think would dilute said ammonia levels faster.

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Does this have an impact, in your opinion, on how one should acclimate a fish shipped this way? I've read of this before but never really considered if it takes "Drip acclimation" out of the equation.

I drip-acclimated the last load of fish from you with no problems : ) But wondering if you instead recommend a more drastic, "take out 25% of the water and replace with tank water, repeat" approach instead which I think would dilute said ammonia levels faster.
I've bought other fish off of Aquabid and one seller I've bought from had specific instructions that say to dump the fish straight into the tank after you open the bags(for the reason Msjinkzd stated), and I've done this with all the fish I've bought online since, including the order I just got on tuesday and all my fish are still alive (I have two shrimp unaccounted for, but I think they're just hiding) and have colored back up.
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Does this have an impact, in your opinion, on how one should acclimate a fish shipped this way? I've read of this before but never really considered if it takes "Drip acclimation" out of the equation.

I drip-acclimated the last load of fish from you with no problems : ) But wondering if you instead recommend a more drastic, "take out 25% of the water and replace with tank water, repeat" approach instead which I think would dilute said ammonia levels faster.
Once the bag is opened, the gas exchange occurs allowing the ammonia present to regain toxicity. If you are going to drip acclimate, you should add a drop of water conditioned to help detoxify the ammonia in teh shipping water.

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I've bought other fish off of Aquabid and one seller I've bought from had specific instructions that say to dump the fish straight into the tank after you open the bags(for the reason Msjinkzd stated), and I've done this with all the fish I've bought online since, including the order I just got on tuesday and all my fish are still alive (I have two shrimp unaccounted for, but I think they're just hiding) and have colored back up.
If they arrive express and seem fine, then you can float them to temp acclimate then I recommend plop and drop method (dump into a net over a bucket and add immediately to the tank). If priority, its usually better to just get them out of the shipping water and into the tank unless they are dramatically cold.
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Great info on acclimating. Should any consideration be put into sensitive species with respect to water hardness? I know my water is extremely soft comparitive to other parts of the country (gh & kh <2). Or is the toxicity more of a concern? Hmm a narrative on this would be a great topic for your new website.

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I will have to work on that!

I know that its easier for fish to go from soft to hard, then hard water to soft. I will have to do some digging and see if there are any papers out there that I can do a write up and cite from.
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post #39 of 159 (permalink) Old 02-03-2012, 02:55 AM
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fish and shrimp arrived today


Thank you Rachel! The fish and shrimp arrived today, everyone has settled in nicely and looks great, as always!
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Thanks for info on the drip acclimation! So just a drop of Prime when you start the acclimation?
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Seconding this! Both rounds of livestock we have gotten from you have been amazing, and everything is still alive

We got our plants for this tank from Jeff Arsenault, who was saying nice things about you FYI

Seems we happily stumbled into two of the better providers of plants and fish/shrimp!


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Thank you Rachel! The fish and shrimp arrived today, everyone has settled in nicely and looks great, as always!
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Thank you Rachel! The fish and shrimp arrived today, everyone has settled in nicely and looks great, as always!
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Thanks for info on the drip acclimation! So just a drop of Prime when you start the acclimation?
Yes, that should help detoxify any accumulated ammonia.
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Seconding this! Both rounds of livestock we have gotten from you have been amazing, and everything is still alive

We got our plants for this tank from Jeff Arsenault, who was saying nice things about you FYI

Seems we happily stumbled into two of the better providers of plants and fish/shrimp!
Ahh, Jeff is fantastic! I have plants coming from him as well this week I am glad things are doing well!
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Are the zebra otos still in QT?
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Yup, but i ordered another 100 to better meet demand

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