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I have been keeping fish since I was 10 and have only liked it more and more as I continue to makes new mistakes and learn. I am now 18. That being said, if you were me would you go to college for marine sciences (general fish stuff, more involving habitat than marine biology) or major in economics/finance and have more money, leaving fish keeping as a hobby?

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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-09-2013, 05:58 AM
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if it were me, id go economics... it seems to have a more stable work than a marine science person might. im guessing more pay too. keeping fish is a great hobby and sometimes its best to not mix hobbies and job.

my friend became a ictheologist (sp?) since then he finds it very hard to keep a tank they way he sees fit... just something to think about lol

i chose electrical engineering over marine for more cash too.
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I'm currently attending college going for a Fishery and Wildlife BS and let me tell you, a biology degree is VERY demanding. Most jobs will require a Master's degree as well, and often a doctorate degree (depending on what you want to do). I also have been interested in fish most of my life and have thought about routes such as Marine Biology, Veterinarian, Wildlife Biologist, Ichthyologist (yes, correct spelling haha) among others. I have honed it down to Ecology Management, which if you are really interested in ecosystems and how they operate, would be a great way to go.

How well you are paid and the types of jobs you will get will vary greatly. The safer route would be economics (I almost did Psychology for that exact reason) but in the end I asked myself if I would regret not going for it, and I thought I would. So here I am.
Do what you really want to do. If you are just interested in the fish hobby and haven't had exposure to other aspects of biology such as wet labs, conferences or even volunteering at a non-profit facility or aquarium, I either suggest you do so or pick something else.

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Major in the stuff that will make you money. Then you can do *anything* you'd like as a hobby
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I have been keeping fish since I was 10 and have only liked it more and more as I continue to makes new mistakes and learn. I am now 18. That being said, if you were me would you go to college for marine sciences (general fish stuff, more involving habitat than marine biology) or major in economics/finance and have more money, leaving fish keeping as a hobby?
i'd say do what you love. That way work won't feel like work at all and you will enjoy every minute of it. Money is not everything you know
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But at the same time, I've heard many people say that making your hobby your career is the surest way to ruin your hobby.

I've always wanted to be a wildlife/forestry scientist. Way too many classes that I'd never pass to get the required degrees. I barely made it through the lowest level of chemistry to get my current degree.

Not sure if there's any interest, but the medical field is in high demand and pays decent.

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Major in the stuff that will make you money. Then you can do *anything* you'd like as a hobby
Hmmmm, that sounds like the advise my Doctor mother and Lawyer father gave me when I expressed an interest in Marine Bio thirty some odd years ago. I will never forgive them for steering me onto a path of studies with the end result being to make lot's of money. Guess what? I spent 6 years in colledge and never graduated.

I ended up with a career I loved and did well and am now enjoying the benifits of it. I have told my kids to follow your passions, and as the previous poster said, if you love what you do, it's not work. Additionally, if you are trully passionate about your career choice, you will most likely end up doing fine financially. Choosing a career based solely on income will assuredly lead to unhappiness.
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Opinions needed on college major

Having started in a place similar to you I can tell you what I experienced.

Went in for marine biology

Realized there was few jobs available
Realized it need many more years of school (and debt) than I wanted to give
Switched to business

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I think the whole do what to love only works when you're the boss, also trying to eek out an existence on what was a hobby or a passion is a quick way to ruin it. Do what is moderately interesting and is stable enough to support your family and provide a decent retirement. My .02.
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...Additionally, if you are trully passionate about your career choice, you will most likely end up doing fine financially. Choosing a career based solely on income will assuredly lead to unhappiness.

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1. Quasi fluff degrees lead nowhere fast. If you want to work at a fish farm or some commercial aquarium for a living, then by all means follow your dreams.

2. If you're going to college to study business and economics it is a complete waste of time and money. You can find all the same information on the internet for free. Save yourself $100,000 in debt and get out into the real world and get some experience and personal contacts. Those two things open more doors than any piece of paper that cost 10's of thousands of $'s.
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i say wait. go into the work force for a few years. you will start to think more and more about whatever it is you really want to do. then you will know what to major in and will have gained some valuable life skills in the process.

personally, i think its a bad practice to go to college right out of high school. i mean, how on earth are you supposed to have any clue as to what you really want to do? if you have a hobby that you are constantly battling your working time against, and spend most of your free time trying to learn every possible thing that could ever be known about that topic, you should probably pick something related as a career. why? if the topic is incredibly interesting to you, you will be good at it. few things will keep you as happy as the pride of knowing that you are really good at what you do.

if you already know of a field that has held your complete interest, fascination, and ambitions, then you wouldnt be asking this question.

i decided that i wanted to go to the best language school on the planet, learn arabic, and in the meantime study limnology. five years of service and i made it to the language school, and i will be finishing my limnology degree after i get out. all means to do the end of doing some MUCH needed conservation work in a certain part of the world. i dont regret not going to college first one bit. by the time i do, it will be the easiest part of the step and good old uncle sam will take care of the bill. then i get to go try and save the world...

whatever your dreams are, you will only be able to achieve them if your mind is completely made up about it. if you go to college wondering what you want to do, you will likely DOUBLE your bill as you change majors or end up in a career that you have no passion for.
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I've been on Wall Street for 5 years now and the only piece of advice I can give you is to major in Math. Once you have that math degree you can pretty much do anything in the finance field which is also very lucrative. I dual-majored in finance and economics.....I got lucky to have as good of a job as I do. On the other hand, all the people coming out of Columbia, Harvard, Yale etc with math degrees are starting off at $100k+ at the Morgan Stanleys and Goldman Saches.

The other good major is computer programming with a focus on math. Many of the current stock trading models are various algorithms that need to be created by somebody. So a portfolio manager says: "I need an algorithm that does this and that based on what the federal reserve does in the next week". You would program a model with those parameters and watch it make money (hopefully).

Everybody nowadays is going into finance, economics or some type of business field. It seems that most people avoid math like the plague but the smart ones that major in it tend to make a ton of money (at least in my area).
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I've been on Wall Street for 5 years now and the only piece of advice I can give you is to major in Math. Once you have that math degree you can pretty much do anything in the finance field which is also very lucrative. I dual-majored in finance and economics.....I got lucky to have as good of a job as I do. On the other hand, all the people coming out of Columbia, Harvard, Yale etc with math degrees are starting off at $100k+ at the Morgan Stanleys and Goldman Saches.

The other good major is computer programming with a focus on math. Many of the current stock trading models are various algorithms that need to be created by somebody. So a portfolio manager says: "I need an algorithm that does this and that based on what the federal reserve does in the next week". You would program a model with those parameters and watch it make money (hopefully).

Everybody nowadays is going into finance, economics or some type of business field. It seems that most people avoid math like the plague but the smart ones that major in it tend to make a ton of money (at least in my area).

thanks for your part in destroying whats left of the algo-riddled farce of a (cough) "market". Two computers trying to out churn and quote stuff each other is not a "market" .... its a video game, that the large brokerage house use to skim "the muppets" (aka Joe Q public) from their money. thank you Zerohedge and Nanex for shining the light on this particular scam.

I would recommend avoiding anything connected with what we call "modern finance and banking" since its all an over leverage, rigged, and manipulated farce whose days are numbered.
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Go for the money. While there is something to be said about going to school for something you really enjoy, it's going to be tough to enjoy it when you graduate and have 6 months to find a job before your student loan bills start coming in. You probably won't find a lot of available jobs in marine sciences.
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