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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-29-2003, 04:07 PM Thread Starter
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I just bought this tank on Ebay. How much light am I going to need? This mofo is 20,000 gallons!!!
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Hey, that's big enough for 2 Oscars. Did the stand come with it?


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I strongly suspect the 42 foot wide claim is a typo.
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Juvenile Oscars, anyway.

Yeah, either that tank is 42 feet from front to back or that lady is 15 feet tall. That stand actually does come with it. It's a marvelous piece of engineering, though, with the aluminum structure and outside butresses.

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Juvenile Oscars, anyway.

Yeah, either that tank is 42 feet from front to back or that lady is 15 feet tall. That stand actually does come with it. It's a marvelous piece of engineering, though, with the aluminum structure and outside butresses.
Yeah, but too bad wives dont tend to recognize beauty from an engineering perspective. I can only imagine what mine would say if I told her I wanted to put that in the middle of our living room. At least I could sleep in it after I was thrown out of the house.

BTW, I notice that you are an ME. What type of work do you do? I am doing work in the hazardous waste field.
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BTW, I notice that you are an ME. What type of work do you do? I am doing work in the hazardous waste field.
I'm a Design Engineer in New Product Development for a manufacturer of consumer appliances. (I'm sure you get this all the time) So is your boss Tony Soprano? LOL

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Hey, atleast with all the lighting you'll have, you wont need a heater!
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Sam that thing is a monster !
Where the heck ya gonna put it ? Obviously it has to go on a cement floor, not many homes have floors that will sustain such weight unless it has steel beam construction. (becoming common these days)

This I cant wait to see bro.

Substrate will have to be bought by the yard, not the bag.
Water Fill and "water changes" will have to be done through a pool company with a tanker.

Personally I would build an outbuilding "around it" with a bunk bed and fridge cuz thats where my wife would tell me I am living now.... LOL

Awesome project Sam, cant wait to swim with your fishies !
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GCA are you serious? The auction said "reserve not met." How much did you pay?
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LOL nah, I'm not serious.

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Sam that thing is a monster !
Where the heck ya gonna put it ? Obviously it has to go on a cement floor, not many homes have floors that will sustain such weight unless it has steel beam construction. (becoming common these days)
Actually, the stress on the floor would not be as bad as you think. Note that the stand's footprint is quite a bit bigger than the footprint of the tank itself. It is only 4 foot deep, so if the stand spreads that out over roughly twice the area (just a guess, I may be way off), the stress on the flooring would only be equivilant to that of a 24 inch tall tank. I have a 24 inch tall tank in my living room . . .
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That sounds like the justification I'd give my wife, haha, but that thing would still weigh 5-10 tons (assuming the dimensions are actually 42" x 4' x 16' - 1675 gallons) and would need a serious foundation to sit on in the long run.

You really would need a dump truck full of sand to set that thing up with a substrate, though!

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Actually, the stress on the floor would not be as bad as you think. Note that the stand's footprint is quite a bit bigger than the footprint of the tank itself. It is only 4 foot deep, so if the stand spreads that out over roughly twice the area (just a guess, I may be way off), the stress on the flooring would only be equivilant to that of a 24 inch tall tank. I have a 24 inch tall tank in my living room . . .
At some point, though, you'd have to account for the total weight the floor can hold. I think that tank would certainly test it!
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Most residential flooring (assuming 16 inch joist spacing and 5/8 inch floor sheeting) can handle a uniform static load of around 400 pounds per square foot (Safe Uniform Floor Load for L/180 deflections). Dynamic loading (people moving around, bouncing balls, etc) limits are significantly lower.

If we assume that the full tank plus stand weighs 20000 pounds, and this weight is spread out over an area of 160 square feet (20'x8'), then we have a loading of 125 psf, well within the static load limits. Now, we would also need to take into account other items in the room, such as furniture. This takes us much closer to the design limit. However, I think it would be possible.

Can we put it in your house to test my calculations?
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Thats not a fish tank, it's a swimming pool!

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