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post #31 of 103 (permalink) Old 01-15-2005, 08:29 PM
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You mean guys don't name their fish? How do you keep track of them then?

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post #32 of 103 (permalink) Old 01-15-2005, 08:38 PM
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Well, there is the fat green barb, the one iwth teh orange nose, and the other three. The red tailed shark that lives under that section of the log, and the one that lives under the other section. White cloud minnows 1-5, neons 1-7, the male angel, the female angel, oh, I did name my weather loach...Stanley. Stanley gets into all kinds of trouble, so I had give him a name so I could give him heck a little more effectively. Then there are the plecos, the bristlenose, the clown and the albino. I can id all my fish at least as far as species, and can break them down to nearly each fish..the neons and tetras can be hard to tell apart sometimes.

Marlin got his name because he was such a chicken poop when I got him, and Coral just seemed like a natural choice for teh lutino! Even still, Marlin is smaller than Coral and she beats him up whenever she feels like it.
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post #33 of 103 (permalink) Old 01-15-2005, 11:18 PM
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I wonder if it would be possible or if folks would care to have our gender (and age?) listed below our name, join date, location, etc. with the messages. You know, I mean where it can be seen as we read posts.
I think that would be kinda good for grins. I dunno.

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I dunno Barbels. It could be amusing, but I kind of enjoy the lack of cultural baggage this carries. Everywhere I go, people respond to me in a way that is appropriate to my age and gender. And I them.

Here I think its kind of nice to approach everyone as a peer. And being responded to as a peer. I find it wonderfully refreshing. I'd kind of hate to loose that.

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post #35 of 103 (permalink) Old 01-16-2005, 01:22 AM
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You mean guys don't name their fish? How do you keep track of them then?
I named all my fish... they all answer to "Lucky"... (lucky they aint in that stinkin LFS tank anymore. )

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Is that the theory of Revolution ? Cuz my whole life revolves around my wife, at least that is what she tells me.

Almost 22 years I have been listening to feminist theory, do i get a degree now ?
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post #36 of 103 (permalink) Old 01-16-2005, 03:03 AM
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Dude! Me too!
LOL!

Like Piscesgirl, "fishwife" is no mystery.

Of course, if we had to ID gender in our profiles, "Martha Stewart"'s appearance in the forum would not have been so funny.
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post #37 of 103 (permalink) Old 01-16-2005, 03:05 AM
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I dunno Barbels. It could be amusing, but I kind of enjoy the lack of cultural baggage this carries. Everywhere I go, people respond to me in a way that is appropriate to my age and gender. And I them.

Here I think its kind of nice to approach everyone as a peer. And being responded to as a peer. I find it wonderfully refreshing. I'd kind of hate to loose that.
Very interesting, eh? When we have the opportunity to "drop the baggage" what is it each of us tosses away??? age, gender, marital status, economic statues, titles or degrees? Can you guess who has multiple tatoos, who is a millionaire, who is a pre-teen or a grandmother?

For a real treat, attend an AGA convention... you will meet the faces and personalities attached to the screen names and it is so cool to have such instant friendships with persons who are not what you had pictured in your mind!

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I'm game! Where's the next convention? Gonna burst some bubbles though!

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post #39 of 103 (permalink) Old 01-16-2005, 03:49 AM
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I also enjoy the anonymity.

I make no suppositions of gender, race or age (although at times a person's approximate age come beaming through). I like it that way!

I always think how disappointed a member would be if they got to meet me in person!

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Well I guess you guys (and gals) figured out from my post I am not a male. I am very much feminine. It was interesting though reading all the posts and here is where I fit into the hobby/gender comparison....and some more thoughts on the subject.....

I've always suspected that I'm somewhat a tomboy...(drives some men nuts)now I am sure of it...
- I do not name my fish, I don't care what they think, I like fishing, camping etc, and I am into tech gadgets, toys and hardware, drive a sports car, make my own money...but it stops there -very much feminine otherwise...

I have learned over the years - after 10 years in the Air Force and 10 in IT, I commuicate differently with men that I do women. Actually it's almost like two different languages.

Sometimes I think guys respond differently to technical or hardware posts when they know they are female...not all but some take them less seriously or don't respond at all...

In the end I guess I am just really here to figure out - how can I build the best planted tank possible - keep my fish alive and the algae gone!!!!!
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I always think how disappointed a member would be if they got to meet me in person!
You lost me there man... how could that be ? I always enjoy meeting people I have talked with for so long on the web.
I used to be involved quite heavily in "on-line motocross racing" (Motocross Madness was the game) and we had teams and tourny's and had a blast but the best memories of those years were actually meeting the people in person that I shared the same fun with.
My wife and I two years in a row, flew out and met 3 other couples out in Las Vegas for a 4 day weekend and attended the East/West Shootout Motocross Races.
We stay in contact with them all the time now and have become good friends.

As a matter of fact just yesterday I met a great guy (bastalker) here on the forum and spent a couple hours at his house. Mark is a great guy and we share a lot more interests then just the tanks... hes a fisherman, a golfer and just has a love for the outdoors as I do.
If we never made the attempt to meet, I never would have known this... we allready got plans to go golfing in the spring

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Although now that I think of it... my wife might have a problem with me say "Meeting up with a lady hobbyist" on the forum at her house or vice versa.
And most likely you ladies husbands would not be so comfortable with me over either. Even though that makes no sense it is actually gender biased in that respect.

Hmmm, we humans sure are a funny creature aint we?
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Well this thread has developed quite interestingly! You've all made excellent points, and now I'm not going to be able to stop myself from looking for some of these corallaries in male/female posters, haha.
One thing I consider when trying to understand why men post here more often is simply boldness. Men, being the testosterone-crazed beings we are, are far more likely to voice our opinions (whether they are worthwhile or not, haha). Like Ann said, though, "but not always". I know plenty of men who are more timid than the average woman. But I don't believe I am stepping over any boundaries and being sexist when I make that observation in general.
As for Planted Tanks, specifically, a great deal of men are more comfortable with the complexity involved in caring for a planted tank as opposed to simply keeping a community fish tank. I work for a consumer appliance manufacturer as a design engineer, and this is something we need to consider every day. If the appliance will be used primarily by women, we don't have as much freedom with adding what I consider "cool features" because the product will not be as well-received.

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well yesterday i attended the monthly meeting of the DFW APC and looked around at the group with this thread in mind. here is what i noticed:
-there were more men than women, but not by a large number
-there were more non-minority than minority (by a large number)
-there were people i would consider "middle-aged" than not. (these are people i consider my age even though they are older than i by at least 5 years)
-people had a variety of jobs and income levels
-the quieter, more soft spoken people were the leaders while the loud,brash individuals were fun, but not really taken so seriously
-everyone was generous, supportive, well-spoken and welcoming
-there was none of the flirting or gender-influenced communication that tends to happen in gatherings where people don't know each other very well
i can't tell you what all that means, but that is my experience with meeting people face to face that i have enountered on the boards...

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Regarding anything related to the internet I assume everyone is male so in my world this is a guys only forum.

I would never consider naming a fish.

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As for Planted Tanks, specifically, a great deal of men are more comfortable with the complexity involved in caring for a planted tank as opposed to simply keeping a community fish tank.
This is why planted tanks appeal to me. Once you get everything set up with a regular community tank it can get stale but live plants always make it interesting.

I have only met one member from this forum. A couple of weeks ago Tom Barr invited me over to his house and he was a super nice guy. He spent about an hour giving me all kinds of advice and showing me all these cool diy gadgets he's made. Tom let me borrow a GIANT stack of aqua journals and sold me a brand new UV untit for next to nothing. In fact I had to twist his arm to accept money for the UV, he just wanted me to borrow that as well.
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