I've never seen them at the petsmart I go to and I'm at elliots pretty often as I'm trying to get a job there and never seen them there either. But I just got back from jan's and got some there. I was really impressed by that store. Thanks for the reply tho.
Yep, Jans is one of the best in the IE.
I like the pattern on their ottos too, not sure what species. looks like they have more than one type, their otto tank is FULL.