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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-15-2014, 04:02 AM Thread Starter
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new planted tank: something's off?

evening all,
here goes my first attempt at a planted tank aquascape. so far so good. i'm mostly pleased with the design, but something feels off to me. i was sort of stuck with the tall tank so i had to add some height, but it feels stark. maybe it won't when it grows in.

i haven't decided on fish yet, but i am thinking about relocating two African Dwarf frogs that i currently have in another tank with a betta. this landscape doesn't have many hiding places though. is there a bushy sort of plant i could use around the rocks to create hiding places for ADF?
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I think it just needs time to grow in.

Many of the stem plants can be trimmed into something dense and bushy.
The Wendelov variety of Java fern is fairly slow growing, and could do that, too. Java ferns are not normally planted into the substrate, but you could attach it to a rock.
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ADF's are not recommended for water more than 15" tall.
Floating plants are good for tall tanks for balance between top and bottom.

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I think it looks great!

Compositionally there does seem to be something (only slightly) off on the right side. Maybe just a tiny adjustment of the driftwood there.

Overall though it looks very nice.
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The biggest problem is the focal point is too high. Lower the "tree".
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Can you post a picture of the whole tank ? What came out has the top cut off.

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Not sure if this article will help for a tall tank. Great article nontheless, it has helped me a lot:

http://www.thegreenmachineonline.com...ing-perspectiv
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thanks for the feedback! @Raymond: the water is exactly 15". i know i'm pushing it with that for ADFs but i wonder if they would be better off here than in the 5 gallon? they were originally in a 20g community tank that i broke down recently.

i will move the tree down. there is a really nice big rock (back left quadrant?) that i don't want to obscure because the butte is so nice. i'll try to rotate it to miss the rock. i've got to keep my hands out of there for a day or so--i've been installing the co2 system and wreaking havoc all over the place.

i'm having a VERY difficult time getting a decent picture of this tank. the back of the tank seems to be doing a mirror effect. i'll keep trying.

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It looks really nice but if you didn't want to lower the left branch you could put taller rocks in the back to bring the focal point lower. Ignore me if that's where most of your planting space is though, hard to tell from the pic.
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Some hygro pin or wisteria in the background would look great, and maybe some blyxa or something small and bushy in appearance like grass towards the bottom tucked in tight to the bottom of the trees would make it pop a bit as well. Mostly just wait for it to grow out a bit for the first trim and you'll be able to tell what is really missing imo

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ADF's are not recommended for water more than 15" tall.
Floating plants are good for tall tanks for balance between top and bottom.
I have 4 adf in a 55g and there fine, they love it

It's more about what rocks etc you have that they can launch off of to the top and crash back down. I've never had a problem and I've had them for three years in this tank now.

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ok; i lowered the tree as much as i could. it looks better i think. also i draped the small tree across the creek bed to make it look like a dead fallen tree.it's not very high, but looks kinda cool. i really should put a large rock in the back right corner, but i can't find that rock locally and have to order it online $$$$.

was able to refresh the sand bed and siphon off all the white scum from the trees. don't know if it's my imagination, but is the java moss turning brown?
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Mosses don't like Excel. My Java moss grows very slowly with that in the tank as per directed plus just a drop more. Says 5ml per 60 gal and I use 1ml per a ten g.
Look at it closely and see if there are any light green tips on it.
I've had it die from long shipments in the dark from overseas. Looked green when I opened the package but by three days it turned brown and died.

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thanks, Raymond. i just dosed with excel after the water change. right now each clump looks half bright green and half brownish. hopefully all is not lost. i bought the moss on ebay from a US seller so i don't think it was in transit for very long.

sucked it up and just bought "a" rock for $20 online, hopefully that will be the last piece of the puzzle.

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The Java moss I have grows very slowly/w Excel. The Christmas moss grows even slower/w it.
I have no intent on trying CO2 for the cost and not wanting the high maintemance
for the speed the plants grow. But the cost is my main issue due to the overall cost of this to begin/w. Have at least 22-24 bulbs on the aquarium shelf @ $12-$18 each.
All half used. I live in rock heaven now but used to live in deep south. ONLY rocks there are where they put limestone on a road. But do you know how much it would rub me the wrong way to pay for a rock ?...LOL...
Where does it all end...
P.S. Don't forget the picture(s).

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