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post #16 of 52 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 02:05 PM
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1st impression MARS! I'd keep it simple, plant wise. Just a carpet plant. Fauna - Shimp, dwarf catfish, gobys....Make the viewer search to see the activity.

This could be an epic build.
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1st impression MARS! I'd keep it simple, plant wise. Just a carpet plant. Fauna - Shimp, dwarf catfish, gobys....Make the viewer search to see the activity.

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I call it, "Opposition of Nature". Because the left side is concave with a window to light and the right side is convex with a window to darkness. My eye naturally starts at the cave and is pulled to the left towards the window of light.

I am still waiting on S. repens to come... I have Fissidens fontanus, Ammania sp. bonsai "True Rotala indica", Hydro sp. Japan, Hair grass, Blyxa japonica, Utricularia graminifolia "UG Bladderwort". And eventually I will put the S. repens on the upper and lower left side of the tank and within steep valley at the back.


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This is going to look so sick once all the plants are in. That rock really is pretty cool looking too.

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Re: 40 gallon Hardscape Utah Dragonstone.

Did anyone else use activated carbon in the substrate? It and the peat can be hard to control, me thinks.

The hardscape is dramatic. Looking forward seeing in green.

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1st impression MARS! I'd keep it simple, plant wise. Just a carpet plant. Fauna - Shimp, dwarf catfish, gobys....Make the viewer search to see the activity.

This could be an epic build.
For sure, Maybe not simple for some, but for me it is. I do want a bunch of shrimp. A goby is a good idea. I have some Green Fire Tetras that I want to put in there. Personally I have to have some fish in there.

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Did anyone else use activated carbon in the substrate? It and the peat can be hard to control, me thinks.

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Well ADA powersand special has peat and activated carbon. A lot of Aquascapers from Denmark that communicate with Tropica use only mineralized clay and unfertilized peat for the substrate and it works great. Once the carbon gets exhausted it won't be much more than added biological filtration, while holding organics in the substrate. And some other person on the plantedtank forum made their own MTS comparable to Aquasoil, which is cool, but takes more time and money to make than to just buy Aquasoil, and he had larger chunks of carbon, which I thought was a little over the top. Peat helps to trap minerals and organics in the substrate as well. What do you mean by hard to control?

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this thing will be epic!



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That rock is intense! Great scape. You can also use plastic pieces placed in the soil to help keep the slopes up as well. Can't wait to see some plants in there!
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That rock is intense! Great scape. You can also use plastic pieces placed in the soil to help keep the slopes up as well. Can't wait to see some plants in there!
Thanks, I did, but I still needed to do the method of filling the tank half way. And I don't wan't to use too many plastic pieces which would have been the result if I hadn't packed.

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dave, from the first time I saw the rocks in the video on youtube. i knew that this was gonna be an amazing tank, and indeed it is. i love the cave and the opening how they contrast. how much does the rock weigh? and how much per pound? thanks man. -Allen
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This tank is amazing, I have to get some of those rocks for my 40b
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dave, from the first time I saw the rocks in the video on youtube. i knew that this was gonna be an amazing tank, and indeed it is. i love the cave and the opening how they contrast. how much does the rock weigh? and how much per pound? thanks man. -Allen
I can get a good amount of rock into a large flat rate box. Consistently I get 20 lbs. The heaviest rocks weigh 8 lbs. And that is a large rock 8-12"x8-12" most large rocks only weigh 5-6 lbs and some weigh 4lbs. You will get 3-4 large large pieces, 3-4 medium pieces, few small and some rubble in a 20lb large flat rate box. For example, a heavy rock scape for a standard 55 gallon would need two 20 lb boxes. And extreme scape like my 40 gallon would be more like 5-6 boxes, and some rock are so big that I wouldn't be able to fit them into a flat rate box. I would have to ship normal with higher shipping. Those rocks are specialty and more expensive, but worth it if you HAVE to have something like that. I am going to start dividing up the really big specialty rocks and selling them separately.

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This tank is amazing, I have to get some of those rocks for my 40b
I can get a good amount of rock into a large flat rate box. Consistently I get 20 lbs. The heaviest rocks weigh 8 lbs. And that is a large rock 8-12"x8-12" most large rocks only weigh 5-6 lbs and some weigh 4lbs. You will get 3-4 large large pieces, 3-4 medium pieces, few small and some rubble in a 20lb large flat rate box. For example, a heavy rock scape for a standard 55 gallon would need two 20 lb boxes. And extreme scape like my 40 gallon would be more like 5-6 boxes, and some rock are so big that I wouldn't be able to fit them into a flat rate box. I would have to ship normal with higher shipping. Those rocks are specialty and more expensive, but worth it if you HAVE to have something like that. I am going to start dividing up the really big specialty rocks and selling them separately.

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sweet man, when you mean rock heavy 55 gal, you mean like DET's? and do you have small pieces? like for a 10- 20 gal? thanks again
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I can get a good amount of rock into a large flat rate box. Consistently I get 20 lbs. The heaviest rocks weigh 8 lbs. And that is a large rock 8-12"x8-12" most large rocks only weigh 5-6 lbs and some weigh 4lbs. You will get 3-4 large large pieces, 3-4 medium pieces, few small and some rubble in a 20lb large flat rate box. For example, a heavy rock scape for a standard 55 gallon would need two 20 lb boxes. And extreme scape like my 40 gallon would be more like 5-6 boxes, and some rock are so big that I wouldn't be able to fit them into a flat rate box. I would have to ship normal with higher shipping. Those rocks are specialty and more expensive, but worth it if you HAVE to have something like that. I am going to start dividing up the really big specialty rocks and selling them separately.
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