New Project - ADA Style Journal - The Planted Tank Forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-30-2013, 02:17 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
padupre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
Posts: 19
New Project - ADA Style Journal

Hey guys,

I've been into this hobby for like 5 years now, but just getting back after
2 years out of it.

I've always been a big fan of ADA works and now I want to start a project
like that.

Down here in Brazil imported stuff are veeeeery expensive and we only have
one place that represents ADA. So it´s very hard to find their products here.

To start, about 2 weeks ago (it takes about 4 to get ready) I ordered a tank (looks like ADA, it´s rimless but it´s not crystal clear) size 60 x 35 x 35 (I'm gonna use meter ok?)

And on the next day, I got an Eheim Ecco 2234 canister from Cobasi (it's like Pet Smart), a Jebo overhead lightining and a CO2 Set from Ista (1 liter).

I'm gonna put the prices on the top of the pics, so you guys can have an idea
of how expensive things are down here. Just divide it by 2 and you'll get dollar amount.

R$ 300,00 (that was kind of cheap, it usually runs around R$ 500,00)


R$ 150,00 (got it from second hand, it runs around R$ 500,00)


R$ 570,00 (the store had it on sale, they're not gonna sell Eheim anymore, so this runs around R$ 700,00)





To be continued...
padupre is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-30-2013, 02:27 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
padupre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
Posts: 19
What I've been doing for the last 2 weeks is let the canister run on a bucket, so it will do a fishless cycle and speed up the process (I'm adding NH3 to it).

So you guys can have an idea, these are the tanks I had on the past...

What always had me down was the size of the tanks (too small, the cube is 30
x 30 x 30) that always limited my work.

















padupre is offline  
post #3 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-30-2013, 02:29 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
padupre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
Posts: 19
Last week, I got this:

R$ 60,00 (I think it´s about the price anywhere around the world)
padupre is offline  
post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-30-2013, 02:46 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
padupre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
Posts: 19
So yesterday I had some stuff to return to Cobasi (Pet Smart like) and with the credit I got an Eheim Ecco 2232 for R$ 510,00 (again, this is not the real price, Eheims are on sale).

I'm gonna run it in serie with my Ecco 2234. I always think that overfiltration is never a bad idea.

Here's how I set this up.

I put the 2232 on the inflow and the 2234 on the outflow.

I'm not sure how I´m gonna set the filtration order on these.

Should I put the blue sponge at the bottom of the 2232 then add a little
Eheim Substrate Pro and on the 2234 add the rest of the Substrate at the bottom and some activated carbon at the top (I'm gonna have carbon for at least 3 weeks)?









In serie:


Finally I went to the ADA distributor and got a few hardscape items:

Any idea of what kind of rock are these? (it looks like Dragon Stone)




look all the mess...luckily that's my spare office...LOL
padupre is offline  
post #5 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-30-2013, 02:57 PM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
junglefowl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 864
New Project - ADA Style Journal

Petsmart in the US don't have EHEIM canister filters.
Your nano tanks look so fantastic!!!
junglefowl is online now  
post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-30-2013, 03:14 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
padupre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
Posts: 19
Ok, so we don't have ADA Stands down here in Brazil, so I'm gonna have to
get one made (as close as possible to the original stand).

This is what I'm gonna have for mine (all black).

But I still have to wait for the tank to get ready, so I can confirm the measures.



So now I look forward to hear what you guys think about my project.

Am I at the right track?

Thanks
padupre is offline  
post #7 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-30-2013, 03:19 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
padupre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
Posts: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by junglefowl View Post
Petsmart in the US don't have EHEIM canister filters.
Your nano tanks look so fantastic!!!
Thks dude...but are you sure about they not having Eheim canisters?

I´ve seen a lot o people saying they got theirs from Pet Smart ...and at least online they do have it...I just checked it...
padupre is offline  
post #8 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-30-2013, 03:42 PM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
pweifan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 869
Your previous tanks look great. It looks like you're doing a good job of selecting "clean" looking equipment to look like ADA. Looks great!

What's the advantage to running the two filters in series? I've never seen that done.
pweifan is offline  
post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-30-2013, 04:17 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
padupre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
Posts: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by pweifan View Post
Your previous tanks look great. It looks like you're doing a good job of selecting "clean" looking equipment to look like ADA. Looks great!

What's the advantage to running the two filters in series? I've never seen that done.
Thks for your reply.

Running filters in series is a very common practice in Japan, started by Takashi Amano.

The idea is to have as much possible area for the bacteria to grow.

In japan, is very common to see a small tank with 16 liters of biological media on it.

So, first of all, the advantage to have 2 (or more) canister is: Maintenance. You can clean a filter per month and you still giving time for the bacteria to stabilize in the other canister.

Second of all, on a planted tank you want less water movement, so you don't mess with the plants co2 absorption, otherwise you could just put the 2 canisters running separately on the same tank (but 4 pipes inside a tank wouldn't loo too great on a ADA style tank).

Take a look at the link below, it´s from Eheim Japan...
http://www.eheim.jp/subfilter_feature.html

If, like me, you don't understand anything at all (LOL), do a little google translating...

Hope it helps.
padupre is offline  
post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-30-2013, 09:23 PM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
pweifan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 869
Thank you for the detailed reply! I'm going to investigate this more.
pweifan is offline  
post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-04-2013, 12:33 AM
Planted Member
 
MrAlmostWrong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 170
Quote:
Originally Posted by padupre View Post
Thks for your reply.

Second of all, on a planted tank you want less water movement, so you don't mess with the plants co2 absorption, otherwise you could just put the 2 canisters running separately on the same tank (but 4 pipes inside a tank wouldn't loo too great on a ADA style tank).
Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that you want as much water movement as possible to make sure there are no dead spots and that all gases and nutrients are even exchanged throughout the tank? Obviously you don't want enough that it uproots every single plant in the tank.
MrAlmostWrong is offline  
post #12 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-04-2013, 03:08 AM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Jackson CA
Posts: 376
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrAlmostWrong View Post
Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that you want as much water movement as possible to make sure there are no dead spots and that all gases and nutrients are even exchanged throughout the tank? Obviously you don't want enough that it uproots every single plant in the tank.
You want movement so there are no dead spots and fertilizers & co2 is distributed throughout the aquarium, but you want minimal surface agitation so the co2 doesn't gas out. I've seen some of the larger ada tanks with 4 pipes but those are 120 or 180s. I looked at the conversion rate and man those are some expensive eheims.

chew is offline  
post #13 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-07-2013, 02:47 AM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
padupre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
Posts: 19
50 days later...


Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByTapatalk 21373165252.572868.jpg
Views:	111
Size:	115.9 KB
ID:	170857
padupre is offline  
post #14 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-07-2013, 03:46 AM
Wannabe Guru
 
AnotherHobby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Posts: 1,602
AnotherHobby is offline  
post #15 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-07-2013, 04:39 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
Couesfanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: AZ
Posts: 2,047
how about a closer pic and a plant list?, looks awesome
Couesfanatic is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome