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First time trying rocks

Hi everyone, I have a 29 gallon tank and I'm trying to make a iwugami style tank. The problem is I don't have any really tall/big rocks and I have a bunch of small and medium ones.
Should i create a slope with the substrate to compensate for lack of big rocks?
also should i put any rocks in the right side of the tank? before I had to low sloping flat rocks in the right but then my brother commented that it looks like i'm trying to form a center bowl which doesn't seem natural with the peaks on the left.

I need some pointers on what I should do to make it look more natural. I have more rocks but none are bigger than the biggest in the picture.



ill try more placements and see what comes of it.

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Hi everyone, I have a 29 gallon tank and I'm trying to make a iwugami style tank. The problem is I don't have any really tall/big rocks and I have a bunch of small and medium ones.
Should i create a slope with the substrate to compensate for lack of big rocks?
also should i put any rocks in the right side of the tank? before I had to low sloping flat rocks in the right but then my brother commented that it looks like i'm trying to form a center bowl which doesn't seem natural with the peaks on the left.

I need some pointers on what I should do to make it look more natural. I have more rocks but none are bigger than the biggest in the picture.



ill try more placements and see what comes of it.
TBH you need at least one or two larger rocks. I know you say you don't have any more but can't you get more? But maybe you could get away with sloping the substrate and sitting the rocks on the mound. I would move the rock a little to the right so they are roughly 1/3 of the way along.

Try that and see what you come up with.

Other than that it looks not too bad.

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worked on it more. any thoughts? does the right side look weird?

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Not having a background on your tank is going to make it hard to get the perspective right. Even a temporary solid color background will help.

I think the last setup looks nice though. Keep in mind, with only small rocks they'll get lost quickly with plants around them unless you go with only low ground cover type plants.
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i plan to use low growing plants like HC, Staurogyne repens, E. Belem etc.
any ideas or suggestions for plant placement?

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I hate to say it but the best advice I can give you is to ditch the 29 gallon. It's just too tall for how deep it is. I am sure someone can pull it off but I have yet to see a rockscape in a 29 that I like, much less one that follows anything close to iwagumi.

However, if you don't already know, a 20 long is the same size but way shorter and works much better. I like your first scape better and it will fit that smaller height much better. I would swap out the tank because it will make life so much easier.
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worked on it more. any thoughts? does the right side look weird?
The problem is still that the rocks are too small. If you are going to use rocks you really need to get them nearly two thirds the way up the tank ideally.

talontsiawd may be right if you want to use rocks. What about wood? It would make an ideal tank for wood.

Whatever you do you need height.

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makes sense, ill replace the top of the hill with some driftwood so maybe itll be like a tree?
ill try it today and post pics
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what do you guys think? im going to put moss on the wood, probably peacock since the last time i did flame moss, i didn't really like the look of it

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I like the wood and it is a much better height. Maybe it is a little far left. You could try sitting some rocks up as though the tree is growing from a crack a group of rocks. Larger rocks would help though. If you plant this tank the rocks will disappear quickly.

Have you got more wood like that? It's great. Some more would do wonders.

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yeah I was thinking about that, should I keep the faceplate rocks on the side of the hill? I like how it forms a terrace.

I have the wood soaking right now but I guess ill go ahead and try out your suggestion. may have to move a whole hill over though because that wood piece is right against the back of the tank already. :P

yeah I have another piece of wood, though it's in an odd shape :/

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yeah I was thinking about that, should I keep the faceplate rocks on the side of the hill? I like how it forms a terrace.
It depends. Terraces are not very natural. But it depends what you like. if you are carefull you may be able to achieve terracing but the rocks as they are in rows to me is not so good. Try and layer or cluster the rocks a little more.

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I have the wood soaking right now but I guess ill go ahead and try out your suggestion. may have to move a whole hill over though because that wood piece is right against the back of the tank already. :P
You can always put it back in to soak after a photo. You don't have to move it too far. Just a bit.

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yeah I have another piece of wood, though it's in an odd shape :/
Odd is good, just depends what you mean by odd. It would be good if your wood was similar though.

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