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Alternatives to seiryu stones

Anyone know any good alternatives to seiryu stones? I have seiryu stones in my empty 10 gal tank, and it raises the ph to 9.0 . So, now I'm looking for some inert stones that look similar to seiryu stones. Anyone have any?
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big lava rocks they can be intricate like seiryu and the plus is they are inert
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big lava rocks they can be intricate like seiryu and the plus is they are inert
Are they available at home depots or lowest? Or would i have to check my local landscaping supply store?
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It raised your ph to 9?
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Is your water liquid rock to begin with?
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Hi shrimpNewbie,

From what I understand the true Seiryu Stones from the Seiryu region of Japan have not been exported for years. The vast majority of the 'Seiryu Stones' we see being sold on the forums today are actually 'Ying Stones' from the SE area of China. Ying stone is limestone with calcite deposits similar to the 'lace rock' limestone we see from Texas. Of course limestone will increase the hardness and PH of my water, especially if I neglect my water changes.

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I find it easier to just go to my local streams and collect interesting rocks of choice. I just match them according to type. Plus all the stones are from the same region so I find it easier to get that "natural look." Plus its nice to take a walk by water sources, great place for tank inspiration!

I just throw um in a bucket for a few days and make sure they dont alter parameters. As well as give um' a good boil.

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Is your water liquid rock to begin with?
The ph of my tap water is 8.0, but usually I just use 75% RO water, and 25% tap water for water changes.

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I find it easier to just go to my local streams and collect interesting rocks of choice. I just match them according to type. Plus all the stones are from the same region so I find it easier to get that "natural look." Plus its nice to take a walk by water sources, great place for tank inspiration!

I just throw um in a bucket for a few days and make sure they dont alter parameters. As well as give um' a good boil.

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Thanks for the advice. I think I'll go down to the regional park today, and look for some rocks .
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Anyone know any good alternatives to seiryu stones? I have seiryu stones in my empty 10 gal tank, and it raises the ph to 9.0 . So, now I'm looking for some inert stones that look similar to seiryu stones. Anyone have any?
AFA probably has some in San Fran, but I guess that's like a 7 hour drive for you. They have Ryuoh, pa hai and some others that look similar.

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Has anyone tried clear coating seiryu?
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AFA probably has some in San Fran, but I guess that's like a 7 hour drive for you. They have Ryuoh, pa hai and some others that look similar.
Actually, i'm going their next week for vacation. Maybe i'll stop by and check it out. Thanks .
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about the lava rocks i think you will have to go to a local store since from what i have seen lowes and home depot only carry bags of crushed lava also make sure to ask for black lava rock since the red is really bright
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Has anyone tried clear coating seiryu?
Would that make them inert? If it would, I would love to try to clear coat some stones.

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about the lava rocks i think you will have to go to a local store since from what i have seen lowes and home depot only carry bags of crushed lava also make sure to ask for black lava rock since the red is really bright
Do you recommend any nearby stores for black lava rock?
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If you seAl the rocks they would be inert
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If you seAl the rocks they would be inert
How would you go about doing that? Any specific products?
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