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What is the volume comparison of each. Weight isn't the only factor...
Yes, that's true, but the Azoo substrate has smaller granules than AS. If the Azoo substrate were sold in the same volume as the AS, it would weigh more
I guess the only way to know for sure would be to buy bag of each, and physically measure out the volume of substrate in each bag.

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Yes, that's true, but the Azoo substrate has smaller granules than AS. If the Azoo substrate were sold in the same volume as the AS, it would weigh more
I guess the only way to know for sure would be to buy bag of each, and physically measure out the volume of substrate in each bag.
While I'm sure the ADA is more volume, your statement makes assumptions that they are of equal weight/volume proportions. I doubt this is safe. 10lbs of Schultz aquatic soil usually fills more room than other 20lb bags of substrate.
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Looking good man! I just love that piece of DW and the tank is ok too. Will keep a watch on this one!

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While I'm sure the ADA is more volume, your statement makes assumptions that they are of equal weight/volume proportions. I doubt this is safe. 10lbs of Schultz aquatic soil usually fills more room than other 20lb bags of substrate.
No, I said that if the Azoo substrate were sold in the same volume as AS, then it would weigh more because the granules are smaller and would pack more densely, thus weighing more than AS for the same amount of volume.
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Looking good man! I just love that piece of DW and the tank is ok too. Will keep a watch on this one!
Thanks, Dew! I love the DW too. Tom sure did a great job picking me out some nice pieces

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If the azoo substrate is more dense than aquasoil, and a bag of aquasoil is 20 pound, 12 pounds of azoo substrate is much less volume than aquasoil.

I don't really see how you could justify the price, which sounds like it's double that of aquasoil by volume.
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For what it's worth, back before this substrate was released, I had a private conversation with Orlando about the price of it, and he straight up told me this substrate is meant to be an alternative to the ADA line. It was never meant to be "affordable" or "budget" or anything along those lines. That was when I chose not to order any of it, and decided I will stay with Fluorite or Eco-complete.

So, I don't think this substrate was ever meant to come off as a "bang for the buck" product. Just, thought that was worth mentioning. It *is* more expensive than Aquasoil. There's no question about that. It's supposed to be "better" than aquasoil, though.
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For what it's worth, back before this substrate was released, I had a private conversation with Orlando about the price of it, and he straight up told me this substrate is meant to be an alternative to the ADA line. It was never meant to be "affordable" or "budget" or anything along those lines. That was when I chose not to order any of it, and decided I will stay with Fluorite or Eco-complete.

So, I don't think this substrate was ever meant to come off as a "bang for the buck" product. Just, thought that was worth mentioning. It *is* more expensive than Aquasoil. There's no question about that. It's supposed to be "better" than aquasoil, though.
This is true. The azoo substrate does not release tannins or have an ammonia spike. I would have gotten the dark version on it if it had not been for my shortage on money.

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what is the subsrate for this tank?
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what is the subsrate for this tank?
LOL.
It's aquasoil bud

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WHAT IS SO GREAT ABOUT THIS STUFF??? is it expensive?
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Guess what came in the mail today?


The Aquasoil will be here on Thursday.


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Thanks guys! I really hope it turns out the way I'm picturing it. Now it's time to shop for plants!

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