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post #76 of 84 (permalink) Old 05-31-2010, 02:47 PM Thread Starter
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So, I LOVE Chocolate Gouramis. They are such interesting fish to watch, and unfortunately I lost all of mine during my move from California.

Point is, I'm thinking about making this a Chocolate Gourami tank...and not just that, but a grow out pseudo riparium tank. I think I can convince my wife to let me mount some light bars and raise the lights IF it suddenly becomes more like a house plant.

Again, at this point I'm just thinking. I'd probably have to downgrade the filter...or at least swap out the lily pipe outflow for some kind of spray bar. The flow from the 2217 coming from the lily outflow is too strong for these, even when throttled down.

Time to think.
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post #77 of 84 (permalink) Old 06-13-2010, 01:19 AM
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I have the spray bar for my 2217 chopped down and on the right side of the tank flowing toward the left side. It is perfect IMO. Since the filter is not full of crap yet I have it throttled down to about 85% but when it is full of stuff (mature filter) and the tank is full of plants I think 100% will be perfect. Don't know how you feel about the eheim green spray bar and intake but I like them and get a warm feeling every time I look at the clear... I mean black and brown algae filled acrylic tubes on my mini-m!

I look forward to the chocolate gouramis too.
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So, I have never shown this tank the love it deserves. To top it all off, I had a really busy couple weeks, and ran out of CO2 in this tank. This pretty much brings me back down to zero on this tank. Now, I'm currently trying to figure out where to go next.

I had thought about making it into a pseudo-riparium, but my wife and I had a come to jesus moment, and apparently she HATES ripariums. I showed her a bunch of pictures, and the best I could get was "that one's not as bad as the others." This isn't exactly a shared hobby of ours, so if I'm gonna have multiple tanks all over the house, they at least need to be something she likes.

I'm now leaning towards a dutch scape. Since my 120g is most definitely not dutch, I thought this would be a nice option.

I have two big hurdles:

A) A 2217 pumping through a single lily pipe is just too much flow for a 60-P, even throttled down. A 2215 would be better. A spray bar would be ideal, but so far, for whatever reason, no one makes a glass spray bar. I'm not really sure what I'm going to do about this.

B) The lights are just too strong. I either need to reduce the wattage or raise them. The problem there is, again, my wife doesn't like the look of lights hanging over a tank. I'm considering getting the 4x24w fixture from fishneedit, but I want to find out if I can turn on just ONE 24w bulb. The reason I'd get the 4 bulb fixture is for versatility in the future. Why spend $65 on a 2 bulb when I can spend $99 on a 4 bulb? Other than replacing the fixture, I haven't really thought of a good way to raise the lights without hanging them. I'm using the coralife mounting legs now. No good, good-looking, options come to mind.

I've got plants coming in next week, so for now I've pulled out the livestock and cranked the co2 way up. When the plants arrive, I'll pull the hardscape, at a bit more AS, and then go dutch.
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post #79 of 84 (permalink) Old 07-10-2010, 02:56 AM
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I have always liked the fusion of a dutch/amano style scape. At least thats what I feel most of my tanks end up as. In my 60-p (in my sig) I am using the eheim spray bar and have it cut so it can go across the right side and blow to the left. It works really well but if you just don't like the look of the eheim bars then....

I will suggest Catalina. If you want the versatility tell jim you want a 4x24 and you want every light on its own switch or maybe 3 switches for the fixture.
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post #81 of 84 (permalink) Old 08-02-2010, 01:21 AM Thread Starter
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I will post some pics this week.

I got a few stem packages in the mail from Joraan, Cryptkeeper, and some others. I then pulled out all the hardscape, and went dutch only. It was pretty bare still.

Somehow or another my heater eeked it's way up to about 86 degrees, and melted a few of them. Anyway, at least a little of everything survived. It's fairly bare now, but I'll be propagating the stems tomorrow and will get some decent shots.
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Where are these pictures you have promised?

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I concur...
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