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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-19-2015, 02:55 PM Thread Starter
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Blue Ram Spawn Log

Hello all, I have been keeping fish and reptiles (Boa Constrictors and African cichlids) for the majority of my life. I recently downsized to a new home and have broken down my 55 Malawi tank and now have a 10 gallon planted tank with a pair of 3 month old Rams and a sweet boa named rose. The 10 gallon mentioned has been a planted ghost shrimp tank for the entirety of time I have lived in my new house. I have always done minimal maintenance to my tanks and instead relied on the ideals and practices of "keeping water, not fish". I have done that with past faintail darter tanks and the African tank. It has proven to be successful for me and plan on continuing this method throughout my hopeful spawn log.
Back to the log, the pair was acquired from a friend who got out of freshwater and moved to FOWLR. They are currently around 3 months and have already started displaying spawing behavior such as cleaning bed sites and courting one an other. The tank they were added to lack the optimal conditions I will be providing for them in the near future, more specifically the temp is at 78 degrees with a programmed heater (I have an adjustable 50 watt in the mail). I also am soon recieving a package of Indian Almond Leaves in hopes that I can lower the ph slightly and real ease tannins and antioxidants to the pair and any future fry.
Other than the varied diet I have given them, I have not spent to much time tampering with the tank and have kept the hand out of it. I don't plan on doing much maintenance wise as the tank has been cycled slowly but surely for the past 4-5 months in the my new home. I will attach pictures and hopefully continue to add new entries as they develop. Thanks for taking the time to read this thread, and please ask any questions you might have!
-Alex
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-19-2015, 04:53 PM
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Looks good Alex. I've kept Rams off and on for years. Had them breed on a number of occasions, but they always ate their young after a few days:-(

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Yeah, I've always heard the same thing unfortunately. I am not expecting the fry to survive the first couple of spawns, in order to not get my hopes up. Hopefully with everything I can do, I can have a batch of healthy fry in the near future.
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So last night my Indian Almond Leaves and my new heater came in, the tank is starting to become darker and darker as more and more tannins are released. The temperature is slowing rising from 78 to 86 degrees now. With a current temp of 82. The pair have continued to clean spawning sites and I have noticed that the seem to take turns foraging around the tank while one of them guards one of the 2 sites they have picked. One thing that has been very interesting to me is that after a while of foraging/guarding, the fish that is at the nesting site begins to brighten up and shimmer as if to dance. I have noticed that this behavior is most likely to get the attention of the foragee so he/she come back to the best in order to switch roles. It's been a very interesting cycle. Here are some pics
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The first picture also shows one of the two spots they have started nesting on
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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-22-2015, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
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It's crazy how much Indian Almond Leaves and changing an old bulb can alter the vibe of an aquarium so much.
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The German Blue Rams Have spawned! Unfortunately I noticed as I was rushing out of my house, so I couldn't observe for as long as I wanted. But, here is a quick pic of where the spawned. The parents are also at the front of the glass in front of my face flaring so that's why you can't see them.
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Curious to see how this turns out!
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post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-29-2015, 04:54 AM
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Oh man, I love rams. Such cool fish! Really exciting that they spawned for you. Also, I quite like your tank - beauty in simplicity and all that. Nice job!

Subscribing to see how this turns out! Hope you get some fry eventually!

(P.S Tell your boa I say hi! Always nice to see other snake people here.)

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post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-29-2015, 06:05 PM Thread Starter
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So I assume the eggs where laid around dinner time last night, this makes me suspect that the hatch date will be probably tomorrow night at the earliest, but who knows. Temp is at 83.8 and ph is somewhere below 7, I have finally tested my water and it appears my general hardness and kh are in the suggested range. I also did a very small water change about an hour ago, making sure not to suck up any bottom debris. I did this in order to make sure the fry have a TON of microorganisms to forage on. I do not plan on intervening much at all during this batch and instead want nature to take its course. Here are some pics I snapped 10 minutes ago. BTW the last pic of my finger in the frame, shows the female defending her brood. Even when I put my hands in the tank to replant an Anubis or anything of the sort, they show no fear and peck at my hands in defense. Such cool little guys.
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So unfortunately my pair has decided to eat the eggs some point last night. This is not far from what I expected as they are still fairly young and inexperienced. I will check back in the next couple of weeks at the next spawn. Thanks to those who have input thief time and participitation so far. I will be back so be sure to not let this thread vanish. Thanks all
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It's about two weeks later and the pair look to begin showing signs of spawing again. i.e. Chasing around, cleaning sites, and the female is starting to darken/plump up again. I'm hopeful for round two. Here are some attached pics. I have changed the tank around a bit also.
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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 12-23-2015, 09:46 PM Thread Starter
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So the pair spawned yesterday yesterday morning, and the fry have hatched sometime in the past few hours. The parents moved the fry from the original spot on a cleaned rock down to the other side of the tank in the sand and leaves. It appears that there are about 40-60 fry. As time goes on I will keep you updated.
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