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post #16 of 23 (permalink) Old 08-06-2004, 09:50 PM
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I assumed they were referring to the Gulf of Mexico region, not the Gulf itself. Hmmm. I might have to do some more research. Later. Supposed to be working right now.

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post #17 of 23 (permalink) Old 08-06-2004, 09:58 PM
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I assumed they were referring to the Gulf of Mexico region, not the Gulf itself. Hmmm. I might have to do some more research. Later. Supposed to be working right now.
Me too...but all I do is answer e-mails etc...

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They don't look like MTS' to me. MTS' shells some to points, these are just rounded at the ends. These are also much to fat and cylinder shape. All the MTS I have seem to have a little dome right at the end and then the cone goes down into the point and are colored light brown/white usually or some variation of there off. I could be entirely wrong, but having MTS' in all of my aquariums I'm pretty used to what they look like. As long as they don't munch on the plants though, I don't see what harm they can do, definately will give the puffer some fun.

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I apologize for some confusion. These snails new snails were acquired from small rivers going into the columbia river near Portland Oregon.

I'm referring toMelanoides tuberculatus when I say MTS. These are the previous (nonvisible) inhabitants.

Closest thing I can figure is that they're Melanoides torulosa.

The river they were in was extremely rocky, and semi shallow. They were just creeping upriver on all of the rocks during the daytime. I can't say I noticed any that were not on a rock. It would seem that the tip of the shells were chipped away over time from smacking into rocks. It does look defective at the would-be tips, not rounded. The eye-stalks are shorter than MTS, and they do not have the spikes coming out of their shell-opening like the MTS.

I got it broken down into 1/3 areas per species. Ramshorn for top, look-alikes for mid, and MTS for substrate. But still there is algae ... It makes me want to throw as many snails in as it takes to eat it all .

It's kinda funny, they have a tendency to hitchike on anothers shell up the glass, or fall off whatever they're on. I see a snail fall at least every 5 minutes.
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I apologize for some confusion. These snails new snails were acquired from small rivers going into the columbia river near Portland Oregon.

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Cool I live down in Albany. The only FS I know up there is Caey's on like E 13th. Are there any other good one's?
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Nice work Sue...I knew there had to be more than one ssp with that shell worldwide.

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They could be MTS or a lot of other things. Here's a map of MTS found in the wild in this country as of 2002.
Could be even more widespread than that because is the average person going to report seeing an odd snail or even notice an odd snail??

http://nas.er.usgs.gov/mollusks/maps/melanoides_map.jpg

and a field guide to florida freshwater snails, more cone shaped snails than you ever wanted to see

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/natsci/mala...il/snails1.htm
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