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post #1 of 140 (permalink) Old 07-25-2009, 04:32 PM Thread Starter
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110g w/30g sump (56K warning)

Started this new to me set up here on a string about modifying the trickle filter sump that came with the used tank so it all starts here before it gets wet
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/eq...e-filters.html

Torpedobarb invests the time and effort in making MS kits and for this tank I'm trying it.
BIG THANX to Ken for the two 75g kits.
Prep on this stuff is great! No sticks, no stones, no fuss, no mess! Anyway, others have tried to describe this stuff so here I will too. Itís exactly like heavy fly ash. Fly ash is the waste product headed for the stack from those nasty coal fired power plants. We burn coal and make electricity (everybody loves it), NOX, SO2, bottom ash and fly ash (everybody whines about it while adjusting theyíre thermostat) is left after we make the juice. When dry this stuff acts more like a liquid than a solid. Itís as fine as dust or baby powder and charcoal in color. Dumped in a bucket it levels and stirs dry like a wet pudding mix. Which is how I mixed in my clay,,, dry. Stirred it with a paint paddle until the color was even throughout with the bucket tipped to about 45į. Took about 4-5 minutes thatís it. Both kits made for 8" in a 5g bucket.



My new to me 110g tank has a glass center brace thatís 16Ē wide and would make getting a bucket in weird. Using an ice scoop with the MS dry was very easy and control was 100% without any mess. Rather than make it quick access like folks are doing now by mixing the first 1 ĹĒ then capping I put it all on the bottom (made almost exactly a ĹĒ layer). Then capped with Flourite matching my other tanks.





Customary boundary border.



The potash and dolomite mixed together already. Again thanx Ken!




The home guard monitored the whole process





The black acrylic background on this drilled tank did absolutely nothing for me so I pondered what to do with it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Angel fish like slate so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Iíve done the background in natural slate. I had tested some awhile ago for use in another tank and liking how it looked I bought 8 more ĹĒ 12X12ís then split them into pieces following the natural layering and glued it to the black plastic tank backing.


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lookin pretty cool so far!

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Part of the excitement for me on this tank was going to be using larger hard scape that I've had for years. Petrified wood in pieces as large as 20" and natural limestone with big holes in it. I know about the rising KH and tested the stone without CO2 to see how much leached in 30 days. The petrified wood that I have is inert.


Problem is none of it looks good to me blocking the slate! Also all but the largest of it look short in this taller tank
8X9"

20HX8W

10HX16L

6.5WX7H


UGH!

Decided to landscape with plants using only one center piece.




8 Neon tetras, 12 zebra danios cycle baby cycle filled the tank 7/20/09

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Good work so far! If you don't like the rocks, you could always do a dutch tank

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Ran a test set today at 6 days wet and have .25ppm NH3/NH4. Took the time a rainy Sunday gave me and cleaned my Eheim Pro II 2028. Replaced the fine pad and coarse sponge placing both in a pan of tank water. Caught most all the canister water in a 5g bucket also.

Pulled the second basket out of the sump and replaced the coarse material with the used filter pads and poured the mum water in the sump 1st stage chamber. This should jump start things

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Sure, wait till I am down to get a jump start on me!! This looks really great Mike! Keep up the good work, so I have incentive to catch up!
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I know you mean "petrified wood" not "putrified," thanks for the big LOL!

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I know you mean "petrified wood" not "putrified," thanks for the big LOL!
I KNEW there was a school teacher in here somewhere.

Fixed it thanx from a two fingered typist.

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nice background. it would look nice if some moss or MP grew on it

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Goin' good so far

The trick last week 'mumming' the sump worked. NO2 and NH3/NH4 are ZERO!
Two week cycle based on testing today.
I've shut down one bank of T5's until the plants take hold better as a good bit of GDA is now present.
GDA I'm counting as a good thing this time around setting up a tank.
I've purchased 6 Long Fin Albino Bristle Nose Plecos. Four are going in this tank.



Reportedly they get no larger than about 4".
They LOVE algae, blanched veggies and shrimp pellets make them nutz

They won't replace angels as my favorite fish but they are cool. (IMO)







Moving day from the refugium is tomorrow after work.
All four LFABN and two Briggs will join the 110g.
I'm also thinking I've managed for once to avoid crypt melt.









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nice! i like that background.

you only started this journal at the end of July. you must have been busy.

those ghost-like plecos are pretty cool.
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Thanks all on the background comments. Once it has some moss and java stuck to it should be just what I'd hoped for.

Vacation out of state for two weeks in July pushed back filling the tank. I wanted to be home to monitor it the first month not just flood it and leave.

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Needing to update this thread but other activities are eating all the free tank time around here. aka angel spawns LMAO
The three day weekend is giving me the chance to catch up a bit.

The CO2 injection was never set up and started on this set up so I shut down one light bank dropping to 108 watts T5HO, 1- 6500K, 1- 10000K and the burn is 10 hrs. daily. GSA is present on one older Anubis leaf but other than that things a growing slowly and the tank is quite stable. I received 13 F1 DDV angels from a member of TAF II and lost two in quarantine after shipping from Colorado. The remaining 11 are food hogging little piglets and growing it seems daily. Stocking is the 11 DDVís, 8 neonís, 2 zebras that would not be caught for removal from the cycle, 1 black Mollie and 6 LFABN Plecos (really liking these), 4 Briggs from Cocobid.

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The sump is working out great with four baskets in the final configuration and the tank is becoming what I wanted it to be in appearance. The slate background really works on this tank for me. The water level is low in the tank because the pictures were taken while feeding.

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Hey that looks great. I like the way that you have given those big robust plants plenty of room.

So I understand that you are not injecting CO2(?). You sure have nice nice plant growth--they look so happy.
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