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post #31 of 56 (permalink) Old 08-04-2014, 04:13 AM
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Try adding CO2 to knock the pH to 6.6 and then watch it, also how long does it take from the start of the light period/CO2 addition to get it to 6.6? Keep the Diffuser clean and soak in Bleach or peroxide often to clean it and then rinse, add dechlorinator etc.

Do not trust the drop checker, stick with relative pH drop.

When temp goes up, the CO2 goes DOWN, same for O2.
plant demand however goes up for both CO2 and O2. so if you add a lot at say 75F, then it's 85F, it will be less.... and the plants will demand more.

HC should grow tightly along the sediment.
That stuff looks weak and lacking CO2.

Shrimp, that which cannot be killed. They are like cocker roaches.


Water changes, good CO2 and watching plants/livestock, those are the most important things. I do 2-3x a week 50-70% on new tanks till they are fairly well filled in, then you can back off.

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Try adding CO2 to knock the pH to 6.6 and then watch it, also how long does it take from the start of the light period/CO2 addition to get it to 6.6? Keep the Diffuser clean and soak in Bleach or peroxide often to clean it and then rinse, add dechlorinator etc.

Do not trust the drop checker, stick with relative pH drop.

When temp goes up, the CO2 goes DOWN, same for O2.
plant demand however goes up for both CO2 and O2. so if you add a lot at say 75F, then it's 85F, it will be less.... and the plants will demand more.

HC should grow tightly along the sediment.
That stuff looks weak and lacking CO2.

Shrimp, that which cannot be killed. They are like cocker roaches.


Water changes, good CO2 and watching plants/livestock, those are the most important things. I do 2-3x a week 50-70% on new tanks till they are fairly well filled in, then you can back off.
Thanks for the reply Tom. When the lights are turned off, PH is around 7.7, but once they are turned on with the Co2, it takes about 2 hours for the PH to drop to 6.6 (a rough estimate on time). Since I purchased the Pinpoint PH monitor, it made it 10x easier for me to monitor the PH fluctuation. I am still debating on getting an Apex Jr system. This way I can monitor my tank while im away, have more control over timing, etc etc.

Temp is pretty stable around 78-79 depending on how hot it is outside.

I've been having some issues with the Nitrates showing zero while using the PPS-Pro method, so after discussing it with some members, I decided to switch to the EI method.

I created some pre-mixed bottles, that I hope will last me a few months, using the following mix (Dosing 5 ML)

Bottle 1: (500 ML)

138g KNO3
21g KH2P04
28g K2S04 (went less on this, since I was told I can get K from KN03, KH2PO4)

Bottle 2: (500 ML)

87g Plantex CSM+B

I left out MGS04, since my GH is around 8. I normally use RODI water, but I have stones in my tank to bump the GH up. If I notice my GH is too low, I'll start dosing this. Until then, I'll leave it out

Dosing schedule:

Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday (5 ML Macro)

Monday, Wednesday, Friday (5 ML Micro) Plantex

Water Change on Sundays.

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Tank as of 8/4/2014

Fire Red shrimps hanging out



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post #34 of 56 (permalink) Old 08-08-2014, 03:58 AM Thread Starter
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Decided to switch lights from my Kessil unit to the Dutch planted 6300k

http://www.buildmyled.com/dutch-plan...00k-xb-series/

Currently awaiting fulfillment. Once this unit ships, I will post new pictures of the unit and how it looks over the tank
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im interested in seeing the difference in the light(s).






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im interested in seeing the difference in the light(s).
I'll take some before and after pictures when the lights get in!
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Tank is finally stabilizing, and added 4 Crystal red shrimps (friend gave them to me) in the tank to see if I can keep them alive. Sorry about the bad picture, it was used with my Iphone


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*8/21/2014 update*

I couldn't resist the deal I got, so I finally pulled the trigger on a Neptune Apex System. I am now able to monitor my PH, temp, and control everything through my computer as well as my phone! I was able to set it up where I can turn off / on everything through my phone, and I can check up on my tank while im away on business.

I am still researching on what ORP does, to see if I want to get a probe for that. Supposedly it measures the the amount of oxygen in the tank? If someone can clarify this for me, it would be great!

Here are some pictures of the unit







I was able to get the 8 outlet version which allows me to have up to 8 things on a timer. This will work perfect for my pumps, heater, Co2, Lights, Air pump (once co2 turns off).

Pretty excited!! Also, this Friday, my new light from BuildMyLED comes in, so i'll be setting that up soon as well!
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<- me jealous..






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post #40 of 56 (permalink) Old 08-23-2014, 01:46 AM Thread Starter
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*8/22/2014 update*

After waiting two weeks, I finally got my Dutch 6300k XB series light from Build My LED




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24" 6300k Dutch XB series light


Comparison

Tank with 6700k Kessil 150WE Amazon Sun



Tank with 6300k Dutch




Overall, I noticed that the Kessil does have a little more white to the light, but with the Dutch 6300k, I am able to see the coloration of my shrimp a lot better. My Fire Red's and CRS colors are a lot deeper now with the 6300k.

Also with this new light, I will now have more distribution of light throughout the tank, instead of with the Kessil, where it was a pendant, having light stronger towards the center, and weaker towards the sides.

Can't wait to see the growth with this new light I received from BML. Let me know your thoughts!
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*update*

Plants started to pearl for the first time ever! They never pearled when I was using the Kessil, but after switching to the BML light, they started to. Great news!
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The jealousy for that apex system is high. That is quite the buy you have there good sir. I wish I had money for that. D:

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The jealousy for that apex system is high. That is quite the buy you have there good sir. I wish I had money for that. D:
So far the Apex System is pretty awesome
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how soon after the BML was added that you started to notice the plants pearling?






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how soon after the BML was added that you started to notice the plants pearling?
I started to notice it within a day of installing the new light. Also, my blyxa japonica is starting to really turn red, which looks amazing
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