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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-30-2013, 02:27 AM Thread Starter
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New 20G Long Build

Here are the beginings of my 20G Long i have started.

First i got this Ikea desk/cabinet.


For the tank its a Aqueon 20G Long that i plan on de-riming the top here soon.


Then i got a Eheim Classic 250 filter with a Hydor 200 watt inline heater


For the lighting i got this AquaticLife 30" Double T5


Thoughts on this light?

With the light on.



I plan on doing a soil mix base topped with Eco-Complete.

I will post more pics of my progress.

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So i de-rimmed the tank today after 3 hours of scraping and cleaning the silicone.
Took some pictures of it filled up it water and noticed some color change in between the glass like it was pulling apart abit. Has anyone else that has de-rimmed a tank seen this?
Hopefully thats the worst it will get as there is alot of pressure pulling out.






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I "think" you can seal it for reinforcement.... I would have paid the few extra dollars for better quality though. I know derimmed tanks come with much thicker glass


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I "think" you can seal it for reinforcement.... I would have paid the few extra dollars for better quality though. I know derimmed tanks come with much thicker glass
It seems to be holding fine. There is a lot of silicone on the edges and the hazieness isn't getting worse. I guess we will see. I am leaving the water in it for awhile to be sure.
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Hey BC,

we seem to be setting up the same tank with a few differences. I went with the 24" Fugeray planted plus for light. Doing MG organic capped with eco complete. Chose the eheim 2211 for some water movement and filtration.
I was wondering though why you decided to take the top off the tank.

I will be watching.
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Hey BC,

we seem to be setting up the same tank with a few differences. I went with the 24" Fugeray planted plus for light. Doing MG organic capped with eco complete. Chose the eheim 2211 for some water movement and filtration.
I was wondering though why you decided to take the top off the tank.

I will be watching.
Awesome. Im planning on doing a soil mix capped with gravel and sand.
I took the top off to give it a clean look. I love the look of a de-rimmed tank.
Im currently trying to track down the ingredients i need to complete my substrate hopefully have it done soon and start the DSM soon.

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I might be wrong but wrong but doesn't that look like air or water starting to get inbetween the edges of the panes? I would be pretty concerned about that long term...maybe I'm wrong.

I have a 20 long a few weeks in myself, also went with the 2213 (250). Right now I'm just running 3 brooder lamps on top of a glass lid with 13watt 6500k bulbs. The light seems to be about where I want it for no tech but still considering going LED, for now this cheap option is working.
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Interesting on the top lip. I am just the opposite on that. I prefer not to see the water line, but thats just me.
I went to Tractor Supply today and picked up a bag of Safe T Sorb to mix into the MG organic soil. 3 buck for 40 pounds. wish they had a smaller bag, but at 3 bucks I guess it does not matter. Currently soaking and draining processes with the MG in the garage.
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Here is a photo of it de-rimmed.



Still trying to figure out substrate.

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A word of caution about that Ikea furniture: the only thing more absorbent than a sponge is Swedish particle board. I would take great care to keep the surface dry during water changes. I even had Ikea furniture start to sag and fall apart in 95% humidity, without direct contact with water.
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A word of caution about that Ikea furniture: the only thing more absorbent than a sponge is Swedish particle board. I would take great care to keep the surface dry during water changes. I even had Ikea furniture start to sag and fall apart in 95% humidity, without direct contact with water.
I have my 10G tank on a $10 ikea side table. It has the black brown finish and ive split water on it multiple times but i do wipe it off after and it is doing fine. But this ikea desk i have for my 20G tank has a glass top which is sweet!

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Update: I picked up what im going to use for my substrate.
I got a bag of earthworm castings, a bundle of peat, and a bag of turface.
I plan on mixing them so it will be 1/2 earthworm castings, 1/4 peat, and 1/4 Turface. Then mixing in sand sand and gravel.
I will lay this mixture 2'' thick first.

I also picked up a trace element mix from the garden center i purchased the materials from; that includes the following:
7% Iron
2% Manganese
1.3% Boron
0.4% Zinc
0.1% Copper
0.06% Molybdenum
1% Potassium Oxide
3% Magnesium
3% Sulfur

Any comments on this mix?

How should i include the mix if i plan on doing a DSM?
Should i sprinkle the mix on top of the soil mix? If so how much?
I plan on capping the mix with 1" gravel the 2" sand.

The guy at the plant store said i should dilute it and inject it into the soil mix after its flooded as he said that filling the tank with water will wash it out of the soil. But i did not tell him i was doing a DSM.

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I have that light on my 40B ans it does very well...
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I'm concerned about what you're seeing on the seams. That is a sign that the silicone is separating from the glass. Notice how its more pronounced at the top? Is it level? My 38 tall started doing that when I filled it because it was off level on 2 axis. I would really suggest you brace the top of that tank somehow. Even corner braces will help. I'm pretty sure those aqueon tanks are tempered all around and won't break, they will shatter.

20 gallons is a lot of water to go all over your room.
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I'm concerned about what you're seeing on the seams. That is a sign that the silicone is separating from the glass. Notice how its more pronounced at the top? Is it level? My 38 tall started doing that when I filled it because it was off level on 2 axis. I would really suggest you brace the top of that tank somehow. Even corner braces will help. I'm pretty sure those aqueon tanks are tempered all around and won't break, they will shatter.

20 gallons is a lot of water to go all over your room.
Hmm well that sux. I left water in it for a couple days and the hazieness stopped at that point.
Any ideas on what I can do?
I know people de rim these all the time.

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